Session Start: Sat Feb 19 14:05:39 2011 Session Ident: #nonprophets [14:05] * Now talking in #nonprophets [14:05] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets will (most likely not) be live the 12th of February, 2011 from 2pm CST, 8pm UTC. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com at your leasure. Stream: Not Live.' [14:05] * Set by debdrup!debdrup@nerdheaven.ws on Sat Feb 12 13:58:41 [14:05] * Spazfox has quit IRC [14:05] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [14:05] yay! [14:05] Dennis appeared on my cheese sandwich. I thought it would mean Dennis will be on todays show [14:06] Does it have three screens now? Or six since it is THREE double screens [14:06] Link to stream? [14:06] Denis won't be here today...but we're starting soon. I had to update the NP computer (which is really only "on" for the show) [14:06] Setting the stream up now [14:06] It has a 3d screen that does not require glasses. [14:06] Nintendo has rabid fans that will shell out money for anything with Link on it, so it will do well. However, it would otherwise be a marketing disaster, as the supposed benefits cannot be shown in print or video [14:06] awesome [14:06] Almost a month without Dennis :'( [14:06] live stream is up [14:06] Rehab -> [14:06] Yes i need my FIX [14:07] Stream is up (but silent) [14:07] I'm not really interested in the 3d part, just the fact that it is a DS with improved Graphics and new games intrigues me. [14:07] And I see that most of you were attempting to connect before it went up...it's already 1/3 full [14:07] Wow, I'm actually on the main stream... [14:07] damn it isnt working [14:07] I think ive already listened to all the old NP's [14:07] Get the good spots early [14:07] they aren't broadcasting yet [14:08] llama_man: I've listened through them twice [14:08] LOL... Some ive listened to more than that haha [14:08] Like the lolcat bible one [14:08] :] [14:08] page brought up iTunes, I think it's a good sign [14:09] I hear random screeching noises [14:09] Once you start listening them when you go jogging, you soon want nothing else to listen to than the smooth voice of Dennis while the setting sun casts shadows on the snowy pine trees... [14:09] Is that a good isgn [14:09] hearing weird signal noises in background [14:09] vlc gives me an error [14:09] * MikeTheInfidel has joined #nonprophets [14:09] i have a relay up, btw. [14:09] It always does [14:09] yup, Itunes brought up the page, clock is ticking, every few seconds there is a pseudo-beep and otherwise there is silence [14:09] unless that's passing cabs [14:09] link? [14:09] for the relay [14:09] sho? [14:09] yes [14:09] Holy shit real infidel guy? [14:09] lol no, that's not me [14:10] http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets [14:10] * dwahler has joined #nonprophets [14:10] I see xD [14:10] all infidels are welcome here [14:10] Reginald Vaughn Finley, Sr. [14:10] asonge: you should make sure Matt sees that [14:10] It needs to be on the site [14:10] julian asonge? [14:10] yes! asonge's relay works for me :) [14:10] mike, u beat me 2 that joke [14:11] beep [14:11] thanks so much [14:11] Donny-: hopefully, by next week i'll have my streaming service completely up and running and was going to give service away for free...and have matt stream at a higher bitrate. [14:11] I dunno but i reald your name like "infidel guy" [14:11] Slower humor please move to right lane [14:11] i cant get the stream [14:11] so something is wrong with vlc, cause the relay opens in windows and that one does work [14:11] stream works, is just silent [14:11] yep [14:11] NoNPropPHETSSS is the show on? [14:11] Oh [14:11] Glurp-: it might be full [14:11] Right [14:12] should i spam my relay? :) [14:12] asonge setup a relay [14:12] could be [14:12] http://nonprophets.dyndns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:12] I did it for you haha. [14:12] robust stream since taking that prostate reducing drug [14:12] jesus did it for you [14:12] eww [14:12] lulz [14:12] Rofl.. [14:12] http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets [14:12] sometimes the joke wins out over good taste [14:12] Scatterer - that drug is second only to Vicodin for pure bliss [14:13] Stream Status:Stream is up at 40 kbps with 26 of 32 listeners (26 unique) [14:13] jesus did it for the chicks [14:13] Sometimes good taste is boring [14:13] usually there are two alternate streams...so that's three, y'know, like the trinity [14:13] hur hur [14:13] pain killers rule, they should sell them over the counter [14:13] dur dur [14:13] it would be a much mellower world [14:13] Or a less populated one [14:13] And less populated [14:13] LOL. [14:13] always go for the joke, and apologize later [14:14] forget religion being the opiate of the masses, let's have opiates be the opiates of the masses [14:14] Why apologize [14:14] true [14:14] Though the FDA is set to nix the current ratio for Vicodin and put a hard limit on the paracetemol component, which will be good. [14:14] * Pombolo has joined #nonprophets [14:14] I'm sorry I apologize so much [14:14] for the illusion of contrition? smooths things over... [14:14] Wheruz ma streem? [14:15] Scroll up [14:15] Mahaha [14:15] I'M NOT SORRY I TOOK THE MONEY!! HA HA HA HA [14:15] A cocktail of Vicodin and FloMax with a side of wine makes for a glorious evening. [14:15] Oh ya [14:15] And a glorious morning [14:15] Starting soon [14:15] WEEEE [14:15] i keep getting the oops page [14:15] assume positions [14:15] no kazim? [14:16] YES KAZIM [14:16] * brono has joined #nonprophets [14:16] in chat at least [14:16] wanted to ask him if he'd rooted his Evo yet, lol [14:16] He's there [14:16] But not here [14:16] I still have the oops page, but it automagically opened iTunes with the show description and everything [14:16] * MrVimes has joined #nonprophets [14:16] is anyone else getting a repeated humming tone on the http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets stream [14:16] I pray to the stream gods that it will work [14:16] Mike, is that a double entendre, or jargon of some sort? [14:16] * wumpusthis has joined #nonprophets [14:17] no hum here [14:17] I ams teh streem god [14:17] i grantz thy wisch [14:17] Fixing to start! [14:17] DrBendo: he bought an Evo 4G and mentioned it on Facebook. I wanted to see if he'd hacked (rooted) it yet. [14:17] MikeTheInfidel: it's on both streams. [14:17] i have both loaded [14:17] been years since repeated hummers... sigh [14:17] lol [14:17] Ah. I'm far from up on the doodad phones [14:17] doopbedoop [14:18] Its 21:18 and all's well [14:18] this is like waiting for the raptureȘ [14:18] But no show yet :( [14:18] May 21 [14:18] mark your calendars [14:18] a raptureȘ even better than Blondie's song [14:18] Scatterer, according to who? [14:18] Besides Jesus [14:18] WeCanKnow.com [14:18] yay [14:18] or is it .org [14:18] victory [14:19] it's alive! [14:19] hi female voice #1 [14:19] ITSNOTTTTT [14:19] i got nuthin [14:19] what am i missing, it still isnt connecting 4 me [14:19] * Phil8662 has quit IRC (Broken pipe) [14:19] FFF [14:19] bzzzzzz [14:19] but the beeps stopped [14:19] hum is gone now [14:19] completely [14:19] RAGING SOON. [14:19] hurrah [14:19] raging boner [14:19] hi female voice #2 [14:19] here we go [14:19] bad juxtapositino there [14:19] yay! [14:19] INITIATING RAGE... [14:19] goddit [14:19] you're on [14:19] s/no/on/g [14:19] gottit [14:19] I hear Lynnea [14:19] Omfg i got nothing [14:19] What is happening!!? [14:20] wheeeeeeeeeeeee [14:20] not any more [14:20] heard 60-cycle hum and a nice lady [14:20] I heard voices, now I don't, now I do. [14:20] IM IN SWEDEN AM I DEAD? [14:20] Who is driving? Bear is driving! How can this be?!?!! [14:20] yay! [14:20] blah blah blah [14:20] Yes, it's on [14:20] hello [14:20] hahaha [14:20] And now not so much [14:20] lol song [14:20] kup'lah [14:20] i love this song [14:20] Sing us a song! [14:20] I'm more delayed then ya'll [14:20] is this bjork? [14:20] Still nothing... [14:20] I has it [14:21] Now gone [14:21] I've only just heard blah blah blah [14:21] I heard a hello [14:21] Such a delay [14:21] lol'd [14:21] song by hu [14:21] OMFG [14:21] HEARing lynnea [14:21] lol llama [14:21] thanks for ID, Matt [14:21] Really bad buffering [14:21] don't [14:21] all you preachers who like fucking, you are going to hell. [14:21] * AltruistiConquest has joined #nonprophets [14:21] for those who have full servers, relay up at http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets [14:21] omg finally a natural female ratio [14:22] lewlz [14:22] "YaY" "BLABLALBA" [14:22] "HELLO" [14:22] evo :D [14:22] And silenceeeee...... Fwoooo [14:22] I can listen to NPR on my phone whilst wandering about [14:22] argh! [14:22] It's cutting in and out [14:22] we need to do a show like this in Nashville [14:23] me and the other atheist [14:23] whoa, 2000? is that from before Matt was a heathen? [14:23] PGHA im having the same problem [14:23] Yes, Nashville needs a show! [14:23] This is intolerable [14:23] pghatheist: what stream are you using? [14:23] Im using yours [14:23] Doesn't it have the Grand Ole Opry? [14:23] Fffffffff [14:23] pshaw [14:23] tags! [14:23] main stream [14:23] This is why i download it [14:23] * Blahface has joined #nonprophets [14:24] oh great! [14:24] I would download it, but I love the chat room [14:24] like passing notes in class, but faster [14:24] Excuse the profanity but "=!€%%#!& [14:24] I do both [14:24] http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets working absolutely fine [14:24] * TalesOfFan has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) [14:24] I relisten during the week at work [14:24] this is on my slicehost and i'm trying to figure out how well-peered it is [14:24] I'd listen to that link but winamp doesn't want to play that file [14:25] I missed "ask an atheist" this week, downloaded off YouTube this morning [14:25] Just as i was saying IT WORKS is doesnt any more [14:25] For me it just opens browser that wants to download endless mp3 [14:25] * Blahface has quit IRC (Blahface) [14:25] Lol [14:25] Donny-: ah, copy the link and paste it into winamp [14:25] Donny-: or, i can link the m3u [14:25] yay mawwage [14:25] http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets.m3u [14:25] yeah! [14:25] mawwage is wat bwing us togevver... 2 day [14:25] * llama_man has quit IRC (llama_man) [14:26] lol... [14:26] Is Ray the guy who converted? [14:26] gone again [14:26] "dealing with the bird" [14:26] * llama_man has joined #nonprophets [14:26] lol, matt is such a softie. [14:26] asonge: cheers [14:26] STREAM LINK PLEASE? :'(((( [14:26] the m3u worked [14:26] llama_man: http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets.m3u [14:26] awwwwww [14:26] frikkin' adorable [14:26] it works without .m3y too [14:26] K good sound, no buffering so far to interrupt.... [14:27] Tscott: that depends on the browser, actually [14:27] shaking hands [14:27] thanks for saving the show beth ;) [14:27] adorable [14:27] Buy a house with a game room/studio? not that it's any of my business... [14:27] llama_man: i've got a pre-buffer configured [14:27] It was painful [14:27] LOL, my hands would shake too [14:27] hey, the guy on "ask an atheist" did it live on air! [14:27] Cool i dont know what that means but thanks [14:27] Hehe [14:27] Scatterer: they just mentioned that, lol [14:28] see thats how proper people propose [14:28] hearing it now [14:28] done! [14:28] Havaanistani: ppppppp [14:28] * harker067 has quit IRC (harker067) [14:28] Aaaah Yeees... NEWS STUFF [14:28] yay hate mail [14:28] yeah yeah [14:28] HATE MAIL YES :D [14:28] YAY [14:28] hate mail is awesome [14:28] FUCK YOUUUUU ZEITGEIST [14:28] I am so far behind [14:28] xD [14:28] I must be far behind too [14:28] I bought the first part :( [14:28] they haven't mentioned hate mail yet [14:28] :'( [14:28] wow, got a serious lag here. I'm just getting the proposal story now. [14:29] yea [14:29] now [14:29] * joeman312 has joined #nonprophets [14:29] all of it is bullshit and ... [14:29] I was bad :( [14:29] hate mail [14:29] that's where I am [14:29] I heard the AskAnAtheist proposal live. Very nice. [14:29] I just heard it a miunute ago [14:29] y'all'z just ignant [14:29] Heilige Geiste [14:29] i got nothing im out have a nice day [14:29] Holy [14:29] * strongernow has quit IRC (strongernow) [14:29] Ghost [14:29] Batman! [14:29] the VENUS project, ~~OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH~~ [14:29] LOL [14:29] FORWARD? [14:30] i have no interest in this [14:30] THATS FUNNY [14:30] Haha peter [14:30] It's a documentary on what happens when you abandon critical thinking [14:30] Lol [14:30] Zeitgeist 2, electric boogaloo [14:31] oh, a Mark reference [14:31] Zeitgeist 2, Geist Harder [14:31] :P [14:31] LOL [14:31] Shitgayst [14:31] Zeitgeist 2, this time it's personal [14:31] Ha Mike. As soon as I head the Zeitgeist movement had joined up with TVP, I knew it was headed into a dead end. [14:31] ShiteGeist [14:31] Better [14:31] the guy on the blog was hilarious. said that believing that it was the actions of a bunch of guys in caves is like believing in god [14:32] Any propaganda with a german title is bad news [14:32] but guys and caves exist [14:32] LMAO: [14:32] * poopie-head has joined #nonprophets [14:32] "logical" [14:32] in other words, barter. [14:32] A woman I work with loves this shit [14:33] i'm a futurist, in as much as I hope to have one [14:33] Slap her [14:33] Verbally of course [14:33] She actually told me "I lve conspiracy theories" [14:33] love [14:33] Lol [14:33] lmfao... [14:33] Too bad its me [14:33] Blacksmith [14:34] Nah, she's cute [14:34] Btw asonge <3 thanks for the flawless stream [14:34] I wanna stay on her good side [14:34] ikea is underpriced [14:34] Really? :/ [14:34] * poopie-head has quit IRC (poopie-head) [14:34] llama_man: i'll be sending an email to matt for next week so he can connect directly and send up a higher bitrate stream [14:34] I have an Ikea pet [14:35] Awesome [14:35] a desk with sprouts growing out of it [14:35] Scatterer: don't you mean chia? [14:35] give peas a chance [14:35] no he meant funny [14:35] Scatterer is pathological with the joking thing [14:36] No thinking at all* [14:36] Not for me then [14:36] it's just a conduit for trade [14:36] my mother actually gave me the "starving kids in India" thing [14:37] What? [14:37] I always took it to mean "appriciate what you have" [14:37] Think of America as a big SoufflŽ [14:37] toppledgod: it is that, but not just taht [14:38] it's being used/abused beyond that [14:38] money is just a meta-resource [14:38] resource can be capital aswell though [14:38] or used in similar ways [14:38] money is the route to all evil [14:38] of course [14:38] [14:38] stream died :O [14:38] ITS GONE [14:38] D: [14:39] oh shit stream dead [14:39] Wtf [14:39] eek [14:39] :~( [14:39] nooooo [14:39] looks like the source died? [14:39] * Havaanistani has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) [14:39] downstream sad face [14:39] OH LORD WHY HAZ U FORSAKN US [14:39] gah, the original stream is full [14:39] praying to stream gods [14:39] It's been cutting in and out for me, picks up where it left off [14:39] so it can't re-peer. [14:39] ohmmmmmm, money makes me hummmmmmmm [14:39] so it can't re-peer. [14:39] asonge: you have failed us [14:39] can someone jump off so asonge can connect [14:39] xD [14:39] I hate it when people juxtapose bartering systems against monetary systems: money is an extension of bartering. They are effectively the same thing. Money is just a commonly agreed upon 'third object' so that two sides can trade items on whose value they don't agree. [14:39] Even that is too complicated for TVP. [14:40] back up [14:40] * toppledgod has quit IRC (Client exited) [14:40] Buggering now [14:40] thanks to whoever left the original stream. [14:40] wtf...it's out again. [14:40] it's not JUST that [14:40] or skipping [14:40] buffering [14:40] back! but it went to Band on the Run for a few seconds [14:40] me too [14:40] (my own mp3) [14:40] Not getting anything [14:41] restart it [14:41] silence for me too [14:41] Link? [14:41] renew it, click on it again [14:41] http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets [14:41] workin [14:41] awesome [14:41] lol, I've heard of the giant stone coin people before [14:41] Heh, I've played Bonanza... [14:41] CANT OPEN... [14:42] ohhhhhhhhhh Matt. [14:42] Actually F this, this is torute [14:42] torture* [14:42] it's not working for you? [14:42] Im just gonna download it [14:42] that was a wheely bad joke [14:42] Nope [14:42] Did you restart the stream? [14:42] Mike? Was that about the wheel joke or a nother problem? [14:42] Yes it wont open :/ [14:42] I wish I could just assign value to paper [14:43] Yes, that's the Fallout series that has bottlecaps as currency. [14:43] http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets [14:43] Non-Prophets: the joke. [14:43] * Lansuggs has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203074432]) [14:43] THE STREAM IS FULL - sorry for anyone trying to get in and getting nothing. You'll just have to wait for the upload :( [14:43] stream resources are limited [14:43] My patience as well [14:44] The restream asonge did is still working. [14:44] And my SaNItY.... [14:44] I will grip onto the stream with white-knuckled intensity. [14:44] too many dogs, not enough bones [14:44] money is credit [14:44] we can't get rid of it [14:44] Not working, F it [14:44] because it's so fucking useful [14:44] money... because we said so [14:44] Thanks for providing asonge, my computer just doesnt want me to listen :/ [14:45] Maybe its a theist [14:45] *shrug* [14:45] hatemailplease [14:45] Or it likes zeitgeist [14:45] yikes, lol [14:45] as long as it's not a Randian Objectivist [14:45] * toppledgod has joined #nonprophets [14:45] fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu [14:45] Or im a technical disaster [14:45] SPEAK FOR YOURSELF ABOUT THE CLOTHES [14:46] Mike, he meant they would generate hate mail by pooping on Zeitgeist [14:46] objectivism makes me vomit at high speed [14:46] * Loupy has joined #nonprophets [14:46] I always forget what allk the labels mean [14:46] Objectivism is an empty word currently lol [14:46] oh, real hate mail [14:46] i've seen objectivists fighting over whether it's okay to enforce clothing in privately-owned public places [14:47] I am so behind [14:47] Randian Objectivist: (n) An autocratically-minded person who gives up religious dogma for the dogma of a thick-skulled author of shitty prose. [14:47] Fuuuuu i want to listen :P [14:47] Libertarians don't like fiat money either unless I'm mistaken [14:48] Im looping trololo infinitely instead [14:48] hahahahaha, hohohohoho, la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la laaaaa~ [14:48] *sigh* I'm going to have to download as well. Bye. [14:48] * Pombolo has quit IRC (Leaving) [14:48] we're an anarchosyndicalist commune! [14:49] I've got shit all over me [14:49] because I'm not the king [14:49] * Mark78 has quit IRC (Mark78) [14:49] see the violence inherent in the system! [14:49] help, help, etc. [14:49] help! I'm being repressed! [14:49] bloody peasant [14:49] in a society with no rules whatsoever, people will form states [14:50] it's been proven by experiment [14:50] I've got a tiara... who else has one? Oh, if you're going to hold out, this is never going to work! [14:50] I have a propeller beanie [14:51] unlistenable [14:51] it's getting bad [14:51] * vaniir has joined #nonprophets [14:51] that's what she said [14:51] (finger in the... eh) [14:52] mmmm, planned parenthood [14:52] the planned parenthood defunding makes me want to die [14:52] yuyuyuyuuuu ooooooooooh [14:52] nananananananaananaaaaa [14:52] it's merely symptomatic of our postmodern ennui [14:52] nananana nanananaaaaaa [14:52] LOL YES [14:52] * j has joined #nonprophets [14:52] droid drivers [14:52] pendulicious [14:53] I'm feeling a bit content, but I can't be sure [14:53] moving sidewalks [14:53] oops discontent [14:53] yes, all curves on the road are gradual [14:53] breathalizer starter is hilarious [14:53] i know for a fact it prevents drunk driving [14:53] personal force fields [14:53] nanny state [14:53] buses, trams, subways, trains [14:53] yadda [14:53] yadda [14:53] Im feeling as complete as possible listening to trololo instead of the NP's stream :'( [14:53] yadda [14:53] * Sabina has joined #nonprophets [14:53] doesn't matter, it will be vetoed [14:54] also, if you bar funding for just planned parenthood it's a bill of attainder [14:54] pendulums are so...analog [14:54] pendula? pendulae? [14:54] pendulous [14:54] now you're getting personal [14:54] penndanteller [14:55] * j has quit IRC (j) [14:55] TMI, matt [14:55] what a bunch of tossers [14:55] o_o [14:55] it was unavoidable. [14:55] now I'M behind [14:55] but I'm a fine one to talk [14:55] wtf [14:55] the joke won out [14:55] Wow Matt! [14:55] * toppledgod has left #nonprophets (Konversation terminated!) [14:56] re: Crisis Pregnancy Centers: http://friendlyatheist.com/2011/02/18/the-pathetic-care-provided-by-christian-pregnancy-clinics/ [14:56] I saw a sci-fi porno once called "Two-Prong Attack" [14:56] Nobody gets to feign offense or surprise...the obvious sex joke was made and we moved on. :) [14:57] tentacles, eh [14:57] NANI DESU KA!? [14:57] You don't need the desu ka. [14:57] what is it [14:57] let's forget about abortion and get back to good old fashioned baby killing [14:57] NANIIIIIIIIIIIIII? [14:57] yeah, there it is [14:58] that's when you can tell if you want to keep it, anyway [14:58] Anyone want to see a great movie? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1352388/ [14:58] haha. [14:58] OK, I'm being a bit Jonathan Swift, there [14:58] Tracie already did that withe the Mahella society some years ago for AE [14:58] dangit! [14:58] Majella, rather [14:58] down again, for a second or two [14:59] wow, cool Lynnea [14:59] buffer [14:59] * wumpusthis has quit IRC (wumpusthis) [14:59] buffer [14:59] back again [15:00] Scatterer: which stream you on? [15:00] * Jonny has quit IRC (thanks for the restream asonge.) [15:00] http://nonprophets.dyndns.org:8000/listen.pls [15:00] via iTunes [15:00] the stream feeds through iTunes [15:02] Is there some sort of side-competition regarding who can make the most contrived segue this episode?> [15:02] I'm your fetus, I'm your fire at your desire [15:02] * Glurf has quit IRC (Glurf) [15:02] * MrVimes has quit IRC (MrVimes) [15:03] personhood [15:03] PERSONHOOD. [15:03] anthropomorphize [15:04] there we go. [15:04] the adventures of personhood, and Friar Tuck, and Little John... [15:04] "Personify" could not be more wrong a term [15:04] that's insane [15:04] DrBendo: personhood is a legal concept [15:04] "corporate personhood", etc [15:05] it's like tacking "hate" onto an existing law [15:05] I know it is. I'm saying that "personify" is simply the wrong term to use in the discussion [15:05] there was a commitee of elected officials that passed this [15:05] redundant laws are redundantly redundant [15:06] * Loupy has quit IRC (Loupy) [15:06] eh, hate crime legislation is often *actually* usually defined as a crime perpetrated towards intimidating a community [15:07] oh, well, never mind then [15:07] so a murder of a gay person to scare the rest of the gays...so it's a murder + intimidating a suspect class [15:07] because the point of the murder isn't actually to kill someone [15:07] I thought it was tacking something on to assault or murder or things already illegal [15:07] in this case, it's to change the behavior [15:07] well, it's already illegal, but it's an "additional crime" of doing it to intimidate...it's a "more heinous" crime [15:08] Asonage, where? I agree that the implicit threat to a sub-group is the reasoning behind legislation, but I'm unaware of many areas where this purpose is effectively written into the laws [15:08] DrBendo: iirc, the federal hate crimes legislation mentions intimidation of a suspect class as the primary reason [15:08] when put this way, i have no problem with hate crimes legislation tbh [15:08] http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/17/946257/--GALegislator-Wants-to-Create-The-Uterus-Police-to-Investigate-Miscarriages [15:09] Ah. I've only read state laws, which seems odd in retrospect. I like the concept of hate laws, but I think that the implementation and semantics could be better. [15:09] "According to this law, any human intervention other than delivering a living fetus is a crime. Every physician must make an equal effort to save the life of mother and fetus, but if the fetus does die after such an effort, it isn't a crime. It allows an exception for spontaneous abortion AKA miscarriage--but only if there is no human intervention involved." [15:09] wtf georgia [15:11] "living in sin" [15:11] hehehe [15:11] FB neeeds a dislike button to. [15:11] it's more fun in sin [15:12] facepalm [15:12] skipping facepalm, going straight to slapping my forehead [15:13] This story seems highly suspicious to me. The alleged statement of the chaplain isn't in quotes in the suit, and there's not much evidence [15:13] "shacked up" would be good [15:13] my ex trained at Ft. Leonard Wood [15:13] * crouchingferret has quit IRC (crouchingferret) [15:13] * gnosi has joined #nonprophets [15:13] While I agree that the religious reaction of "God's will" is atrocious, I have doubts that what he actually said is inherently objectionable [15:14] DrBendo: ok, we don't have hard evidence, that will all come out in the suit, but I don't find it unbelievable. [15:14] technically, isn't everything that ever happens "God's Will"? [15:14] Not in general meaning, but I'm sure you can imagine a semi-tactful (for a chaplain) way of making the statement that is inoffensive. [15:14] I mean, from a Theistic standpoint, if "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands"? [15:14] that sounded dirty! [15:15] If it turns out to be an accurate representation of events, then he should be attacked like all hell, but reacting to a necessarily biased summary seems premature [15:15] Like Groucho's duck [15:15] oh shit yes [15:15] Chad Elliott [15:15] * wuphat has quit IRC (wuphat) [15:15] nobody's gonna get that 'cause I'm like 2 minutes behind [15:15] I'm the one who wrote his own story [15:16] we have memories [15:16] we get it [15:16] anyone behind you might not [15:16] * vaniir has quit IRC (vaniir) [15:16] arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [15:16] GUH [15:17] LIKE A JEDI [15:17] You'll go there and LIKE it mister [15:17] she left before her training was complete [15:18] LOL [15:18] cool story bro [15:18] "I've seen Demons"...now, that's credible [15:18] her journey toward the dark side was not complete [15:18] I spent about 20 minutes writing my own story and then the jackass deletes the thread [15:18] come to the dark side... we have cake! [15:18] knew I should've saved it [15:18] the theist calls lately have been very good. [15:18] * Kazim has joined #nonprophets [15:19] Totally forgot to sign in the chat room [15:19] Matt's impassioned speech was awesome on last week's TAE [15:19] holy crap, with this lag I'll still be listening at midnight [15:19] pghatheist: you're listed as a "slow listener" :) [15:19] lol [15:19] haha, billy ray cyrus <3 [15:19] did he actually pronounce it 'bogey man' [15:20] preach, proselytize, provoke, punch [15:20] pooh pooh [15:20] don't tell it to his head, his empty, empty head [15:20] we're under attack by people who are...not attacking us [15:21] Hail Satan! [15:21] * pghatheist has quit IRC (pghatheist) [15:21] Delicious babies! [15:21] Hannah Satana! [15:21] * pghatheist has joined #nonprophets [15:21] what do you actually have to do if you adopt a highway? [15:22] MikeTheInfidel: small fee, plus you have to actually clean it. [15:22] Clean highway diapers [15:22] * Zeronamous has joined #nonprophets [15:22] 2-4 times a year. [15:22] You have to pick up trash every so often [15:22] depends on the state. [15:22] heh, well then, we'll probably be adopting one [15:22] Get up at 2 in the morning when the highway starts crying [15:22] LOL [15:22] how do you nurse a highway? [15:22] or ... change it [15:22] You should adopt highways from 3rd world countries [15:22] MikeTheInfidel: also, you can plant and landscape some things sometimes...but you may need a police escort so that you have proper safety gear (vests, etc) [15:23] piece of ass fault [15:23] * Bananas has joined #nonprophets [15:24] lol hellmouth [15:24] lol buffy [15:24] hehe [15:24] ruh roh [15:24] the AA sexism shit? [15:24] * pghatheist has quit IRC (pghatheist) [15:24] secret's out now! [15:24] NO! Not the AA sexism stuff! [15:24] Praise Satan and pass the baby! [15:24] matt will not like anonymous [15:24] in this case [15:25] chaotic neutral is a double-edged sword [15:25] Fuck anonymous. It's nothing more than cheap vandalism masquerading as activism [15:25] it's strange to be in agreement with Bill O'Reilly on this issue, though :| [15:25] mixed feelings [15:25] but, mostly, I like laws [15:26] yah [15:26] but, would not shed any tears over Phelps busted website [15:26] countdown to ACA website being shut down: 3... 2... 1... [15:26] good thing Batman is fiction [15:27] "Would you cut down all the laws of England if you could corner the devil?" "Yes. Of course" "What then would you do when you've cornered the devil and you've cut down all the laws of England that protect you?" [15:27] ooh! Nate Phelps [15:28] the correct answer to Fred Phelps et al is "fuck you" [15:28] loud and repeated [15:28] with motorcycle drowning them out [15:28] What the blue hell is "borderline" about it? [15:29] nothing [15:29] in New Orleans, at one time (1980's?) they had something called the "fighting words" law [15:29] i helped with their scientology stuff...the way anonymous works is people just choose when to join up when they think its moral [15:29] which meant that saying certain things was assault [15:29] also, anonymous does go after rapists [15:29] they turned in child porn kings [15:29] and a person was justified in physical violence at that poing [15:29] point [15:30] I think this has been overturned now [15:30] When talking about Anonymous you need to understand that it's big group of people. There are some who do "good" things and others who work more without the support of other Anonymous people. [15:30] Jack Bauer is hard core [15:30] good thing he's fictional [15:30] oh yeah, this kid. [15:30] Scatterer, the actual enforcement of those laws is a lot smaller in scope than people think. No words are dangerous in themselves; there has to be a clear threat [15:30] That is ehmmm [15:30] kind of funny actually [15:30] totally mean but funny [15:31] what is? [15:31] The flashy gifs thing Russel mentioned [15:31] the comments on this wrestling story on Yahoo were amazing [15:31] he's just afraid he'd lose to a girl [15:31] uhm [15:31] if people weren't congratulating him for sticking to his faith they were attacking the girl for thinking she had a right to be involved or saying she shouldn't do it because she'd get hurt [15:31] * hamax has joined #nonprophets [15:32] I can't see where there's much of a story here. The kid did nothing wrong, and he actually handled the situation very well [15:32] you wrestle like a girl! [15:33] she lost in the semi-finals [15:33] when I wrestle you, it makes me feel... funny... [15:33] rasslin'! [15:33] * gnosi has quit IRC (gnosi) [15:33] ooh, he's hot her in the Swedish Booby hold! [15:33] got [15:33] Freudian slip [15:34] :) [15:34] loleviticus [15:34] DrBendo: I agree, but the story really seemed to be more of the response the story got [15:35] I saw at least two outright rape jokes [15:35] he who rassleth with a woman as with a man shall yea verily be called a pouffe [15:35] including something about how a guy who wrestles a girl should get his crotch in her face and do several pelvic thrusts [15:35] I see no reason why rape humor should ever be off the table. [15:35] adults joking about raping kids [15:36] awful things are often funny [15:36] if there's not grass on the field, play in the mud, etc. [15:36] as long as it's not in front of raped kids [15:36] Fair game. If one can make a funny joke, the involvement of rape should not deter that [15:36] i mean, the jokes there are gold. [15:36] and yet, still very little 911 humor [15:36] when was the first Titan joke, I wonder [15:36] DrBendo: come over here at let me rape you repeatedly [15:36] Titanic [15:36] Joachim, I see no reason to censor onesself in front of victims [15:36] basic human decency [15:36] Scatterer: i'd say the first titanic joke was on the titanic as it was sinking [15:37] stop rearranging those deck chairs! [15:37] It may show poor tact, but that's true of a lot of humor. There's a double standard when it comes to rape that doesn't seem to apply with any other crime (including murder) [15:37] DrBendo: i think context is important. [15:37] DrBendo: then you are socially retarded [15:37] I wouldn't make a murder joke in front of the family of a murder victim. I wouldn't make a cancer joke in front of a cancer survivor. [15:37] so the guy puts the gun to his head and says "don't laugh, baby, you're next!" [15:37] Context is important for any joke, that's a given [15:37] MikeTheInfidel: on the second account, i have done it. [15:38] MikeTheInfidel: it's about context, not audience. [15:38] I did it without realizing it, then felt like shit [15:38] did the guy with cancer care? [15:38] audience doesn't provide context? [15:38] i dobut it. [15:38] *doubt [15:38] joachim: it's just 1 factor among many. [15:38] Guys who ask "Can boys play girl sports then?" show lack of logic. [15:38] I think it would be in poor taste to tell a rape joke because a rape victim is present. But if the joke comes up, I say go for it [15:38] I saw her face and realized immediately why she was reacting so badly. [15:38] know your audience is communicating 101 [15:38] Rape victim walks into a bar... [15:38] Because one practices with those with better skills. [15:40] I'll make out with you, Matt! ....................................... maybe. if I'm drunk. and I can't see that it's a man. [15:40] here's [15:40] blah* [15:40] heresy [15:40] Biological imperative [15:41] there's some issues that seem to affect women a lot more, particularly with regards to religion [15:41] * Blahface has joined #nonprophets [15:41] go on [15:41] focus on the family? [15:41] the quiverful movement is much more interesting and a much bigger problem than belief in ghosts. [15:41] Yoko' is just being idealistic. Individual treatment is unrealistic; one has to make assumptions and extrapolate based on commonalities. [15:41] * Blahface has quit IRC (Blahface) [15:41] uhhh what [15:42] "turn gay" is the dumbest phrase [15:42] I wanted barbies when I was six, but only to feel them up [15:42] "Catch the gay", on the other hand, has a certain charm to it [15:42] I wanted erecto sets, but was given dolls isntead. boy-toys are useful [15:43] again, untrue, just going for the tasteless joke again [15:43] we used to have our barbies make out and grope [15:43] the B&N here has 1 shelf for science, 1 for philosophy, and 8 for religion and 4 for new age. [15:43] oh, and 8 for christian literature [15:43] what state, asonge? [15:43] * pghatheist has joined #nonprophets [15:43] louisiana. [15:43] Austin BNs have huge science shelves. [15:44] ah! [15:44] Bananas, I suspect that the nature of gender roles in toy provisions is a very powerful force of socialization. [15:44] I like to go to libraries and bookstore and move all the bibles and scriptures to the "religious fiction" section [15:44] I need, need, need to move to Austin... [15:44] I think so. I wanted toys that DID stuff, but kept getting dolls. [15:44] Isn't "Religious Fiction" redundant? [15:44] btw is Microbiologychick Lynnea or am I a moron who needs to catch up on the backlog of shows [15:44] used to live in Louisiana [15:44] I'm Beth [15:44] @asonge [15:44] <_< [15:44] we're #1! [15:45] Beth, you're good in Micro? I sucked at micro. [15:45] <--Matt [15:45] Girls are largely taught to be self-centered and unproductive while boys are aimed for doing shit and checking things out [15:45] Scatterer: it's home for me. i'm going to change it. [15:45] say hay beth! [15:45] Good in it? She's got a Masters. :) [15:45] I'm a microbiologist [15:45] I was in Metairie [15:45] thank you for the show, everyone [15:45] my mommy says I'm a winner [15:45] :D [15:45] Awesome. [15:45] Yes [15:45] Dennis! [15:45] It's tough stuff. [15:45] thanks for the show! [15:45] We need Dennis! [15:45] Denise? [15:45] Non-Prophets: i want to host your stream...i'm starting up a streaming company (for radio stations, mostly) [15:45] EXCUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME [15:45] sent you an email. [15:45] Thanks for the show and asonge thanks for the stream [15:45] Women overwhelmingly hold a female baby to face them and tell them how pretty they are. With males, they face outward and draw the kids' attention to teh world around them [15:46] * pghatheist has quit IRC (pghatheist) [15:46] * dwahler has quit IRC (Leaving) [15:46] asonge this worked great, thanks so much :) [15:46] <3. [15:46] I believe it, DrBendo [15:46] great stream. [15:46] Apart from the one hiccup for it falling down it worked better than original stream [15:46] I may already be a winner [15:46] thanks for relaying, asonge [15:46] Alrighty... see ya. [15:46] DrBendo: lol [15:46] Donny-: that was when they ran out of upload, i checked the logs :) [15:46] great name for a band [15:46] magic jesus, heh [15:46] * Bananas has left #nonprophets [15:47] Santa Claus will take you to Hell! [15:47] so Kazim how 'bout that Evo [15:47] @asonge where in Louisiana are you? [15:47] Scatterer: lafayette [15:47] bon tomps [15:47] Scatterer: i'd only live here or in new orleans, honestly [15:47] temps [15:47] passed through it many times [15:47] * jer has quit IRC (jer) [15:47] i've got 50mbps up/down of fiber for $58/mo [15:48] and there is actually some culture here. [15:48] O_o [15:48] That's it? [15:48] kinda miss new orleans, except for the weather [15:48] I get my internet access as pary of my rent. time to have a chat with the building managers. [15:48] is there often an aftershow? [15:48] * tom has quit IRC (tom) [15:48] nah [15:48] * Zeronamous has left #nonprophets [15:49] * truthsetsyoufree has joined #nonprophets [15:49] Scatterer: well, here [15:49] Has there ever been aftershow? [15:49] MikeTheInfidel: municipal internet company, one of the first fiber-to-the-home municipal providers...and yes, i can actually use all 50mbits during peak [15:49] sometimes for days [15:49] * truthsetsyoufree has quit IRC (truthsetsyoufree) [15:49] For npr? [15:49] * Sabina has quit IRC (Sabina) [15:49] * Kazim has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [15:49] why would there be an aftershow? [15:49] it's not on air [15:49] they could just talk more [15:49] sometimes they have aftershows on TAE [15:50] which they sometimes do [15:50] yeah, because they're actually on air [15:50] but that's because it's on tv [15:50] Yeah but that's a bit different because they have 1 hour limit [15:50] If I had a new fiancee [15:50] damned if I'd do an aftershow [15:50] good point [15:50] But yeah thanks for the show Non-Prophets. [15:51] * Donny- has left #nonprophets [15:51] huzzah [15:51] much better than last weeks non-show [15:51] * joeman312 has quit IRC (joeman312) [15:51] * MikeTheInfidel has quit IRC (Leaving) [15:51] * DrBendo has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100914125854]) [15:51] hehe [15:51] finally i got to listen to one live :) [15:51] * Tscott has quit IRC (Tscott) [15:51] I remember when I used to not think about my atheism at all, unless it came up as an awkward confrontation [15:52] I look forward to not thinking about it again [15:52] when there are no more fundies to react to [15:52] * Microbiologychick has quit IRC (Microbiologychick) [15:52] living in northern europe, it never comes up [15:52] but that's just my crack-smoking pipe dream [15:53] where in north europe? [15:53] far north [15:53] * Glurp- in netherlands [15:53] Klar [15:54] Sorry, german is as far north as my languages go [15:54] here there's not much religious stuff either [15:54] germany is really close ;) [15:54] * DorisES has quit IRC (DorisES) [15:54] must be nice [15:54] i actually work half a mile from the border [15:55] gibt es "plattdeustch"? [15:55] hmm dunno what you mean [15:55] just a rumor I heard [15:55] a dialect spoken near the Dutch-German border [15:56] ah yes there is, but i dont speak it [15:56] my grandfather does [15:56] and its spoken in a big region in the netherlands and germany [15:56] we have some pretty amazing dialects of English spoken in America [15:57] the farther you get back in time the more the german/dutch/english languages look alike [15:57] I was visiting North Carolina once, could not understand what the young cashier was trying to tell me [15:58] * brono has quit IRC (brono) [15:58] because she was saying "ch-eye-nge" instead of change [15:58] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Feb 19 15:58:05 2011