Session Start: Sat Apr 16 13:19:14 2011 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:19] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:19] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets will be live the 16th of April, 2011 from 2pm CDT, 7pm UTC. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com at your leasure. Stream: Not Live.' [13:19] * Set by debdrup on Sat Apr 16 12:33:13 [13:19] About the same for myself. [13:19] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:19] Regardless, please don't do it again. :) [13:19] * jjavaholic has joined #nonprophets [13:19] Do what again? [13:19] Spout memes. [13:19] ? [13:20] debrups being a dick [13:20] ..nevermind. [13:20] *kick* [13:20] did they say there would not be doing a show two weeks or just one? [13:20] there is a show today [13:20] There's a show today...assuming everyone shows up [13:20] hell I can't even get the audio [13:20] jjavaholic: Matt's here, so there's a show. [13:20] EvidenceOrGTFO: the stream isn't live (info is in topic) [13:21] I try to keep the topic up-to-date. [13:22] Btw when i said "I want to make a game" i wasnt consciously referring to the meme [13:23] So Pee Wee Herman is on HBO [13:23] I swear he hasn't aged [13:23] One of my friends is having problems connecting. Says connection is refused? [13:24] "eyeofreason" [13:24] Well, was he kicked as well? [13:24] No idea. [13:24] If he's getting connection refused, he should try reconnecting. [13:24] Or unplug the pc and throw it into the ocean [13:24] Connection refused is when the server he's connecting to isn't running (but the machine itself is). [13:25] * Uhmu has joined #nonprophets [13:25] Aloha [13:25] Howdy [13:25] Konichiwa [13:25] Actually, "HALLÅ" [13:25] *cringes* [13:25] ? [13:25] * SubTachyon has joined #nonprophets [13:26] Hello. [13:26] http://66.228.123.40:8000/listen.pls is functioning right? [13:26] Dont know [13:26] Nope. Have been down since the hiatus [13:26] I listen to the streams other people link to during the chat [13:26] During the live show* [13:27] * wuphat has joined #nonprophets [13:27] Where's everyone from? [13:27] Darnit. [13:27] Sweden [13:27] and/or do for a living [13:28] Leech on society [13:28] haha [13:28] Would anyone happen to have an uptodate one? Because I want to play a game or two of Starcraft II or HoN and I cant really come back here mid game to check for links :P [13:28] Well i study [13:28] Ohio here - rig geologist [13:28] ROFL, you sound like my brother Sub [13:28] NY orginially, NJ now -- Former Air Force, now student [13:29] * eyeofreason has joined #nonprophets [13:29] Sweden - general lazy moron, studying [13:29] wb reason [13:29] thnx [13:29] not sure why Chatzilla wouldn't let me connect, but oh well... [13:29] I miss school, that's for sure [13:30] did you kick it? [13:30] Nope. [13:30] I like school [13:30] I go to religion classes i dont have [13:30] hahaha i used to do that [13:30] * eyeofreason has left #nonprophets [13:30] sit in on random classes [13:30] * eyeofreason has joined #nonprophets [13:30] Its fun [13:31] *gets a nailgun and nails reason down* [13:31] eyeofreason: what server were you connecting to out of curiocity? [13:31] If you have problems with irc.wikkedwire.net you could try us.wikkedwire.net or eu.wikkedwire.net [13:31] im on www.wikkedwire.com/help [13:32] Anyone here have any experience of making computer games? [13:33] tried both and they're not working... i had to go through the help page on wikkedwire.com [13:33] No but I'm good at making religious jokes [13:33] Bring it [13:33] Games... No. Websites... Yes! [13:33] :P [13:33] I agreed to helping one of my friends make a pornsite today [13:33] * eyeofreason has quit IRC (eyeofreason) [13:34] I wonder what crazy things hell make me do [13:34] He's crashing [13:34] Eyeofreason i mean [13:35] Trying to get some setup done...I'm assuming everyone is planning on showing up. Semi AFK for a few [13:35] * eyeofreason has joined #nonprophets [13:35] * MasterSivers has joined #nonprophets [13:35] Problem eyeofreason? [13:35] Woot! Excited. [13:35] * Konradius has joined #nonprophets [13:35] * eyeofreason has quit IRC (eyeofreason) [13:36] * eyeofreason has joined #nonprophets [13:36] I'm done trying to fix it... I'll just use the web applet. :-( [13:36] Yeah [13:36] Do that [13:36] It works well [13:36] Mmmh the show is in about 20 mins right [13:37] It just sucks cause I already went to the trouble of downloading Chatzilla. [13:37] Llama_Man: Yes. [13:37] The show will be whenever people get here... [13:37] If you had portals [13:37] lol Aren't you at Matt's place right now? [13:37] Where are they? [13:37] * athiesteast has joined #nonprophets [13:38] Russell and Denis aren't here. [13:38] Denis going to be here today? [13:38] BOO! [13:38] Will they be coming? [13:38] RUSSELL.... GET HIM, i need his sarcasm [13:38] lol [13:38] * athiesteast has left #nonprophets [13:38] Can someone please link stream that will work? [13:38] I have proof God doesn't exist... [13:38] * BronxAtheist has joined #nonprophets [13:38] * c6c6dog has joined #nonprophets [13:39] Master, trolling again`? [13:39] No, it's a jest. [13:39] All of the snow was melted yesterday... [13:39] And I woke up this morning, and there was a fuck-ton of snow on the ground. [13:39] There is no god. [13:39] that sounded like a call for Russell and Dennis to Hurry up [13:39] I'm obviously not serious. [13:40] Russell is in traffic. [13:40] The link that typically works when a stream is going is http://www.bitsizzle.com:8005/nonprophets - but it probably won't work before the stream is up and running. [13:40] I obviously thought you were [13:40] Then again, that link might be very out-of-date. [13:40] No worries, I don't take offense. [13:40] * apparition has joined #nonprophets [13:40] It's perfectly understandable. [13:41] Aaah, the snow here is melted away [13:41] *poke poke* [13:41] I'm glad winter is over [13:41] It's been gone for a few days. Hasn't snowed for like two weeks... [13:41] Llama_Man: where are you located in Sweden? [13:41] Russell inclined to succumb to road rage? [13:41] MN [13:41] Oh. [13:41] Sort of "in the middle" [13:41] Woops. [13:41] * Non-Prophets sets mode: +o Microbiologychick [13:42] Hälsingland [13:42] Whats the difference between a snowman and a snow-woman? [13:42] snow balls [13:42] x) [13:42] ZING [13:42] WHERE'S YOUR CEREBRAL HUMOR NOW DEBDRUP [13:42] knock, knock [13:42] Debderp [13:42] :) [13:42] Go home. [13:42] Llama_Man: it's hiding. [13:42] lol [13:42] Who's there? [13:43] From bad memes, specifically. :P [13:43] KNOCK, KNOCK [13:43] Haha [13:43] * MasterSivers hates knock knock jokes... [13:43] WHO'S THERE [13:43] OMG TELL ME [13:43] Go fuck yourself! ^_^ [13:43] ILL CALL THE COPS [13:43] haha [13:43] XD [13:43] *runs away* [13:43] Okay, that one was decent. [13:43] THERE WAS A MAN HERE [13:43] HE WASNT CHRISTIAAAAAN ok whatever [13:43] And he ran away without using the /me command... [13:44] lol [13:44] What do you get when you cross a mormon with an atheist? [13:44] idk... What? [13:44] * Llama_Man wee [13:44] Denis is here!!! [13:44] * Spazfox has joined #nonprophets [13:44] Yay! [13:44] FUCK YES! [13:44] A person who knocks on your door at 6am for no reason [13:44] GOD BLESS [13:44] So, Denis is here...Russell is running about 10 minutes late. [13:44] yay!! [13:44] It's a hack 80s comedian joke if anything. At least, I'm pretty sure I've seen that joke done by 80s comedians who could be called a hack comedian. [13:44] LMAO. [13:44] 0_0 [13:44] Tell Denis I want his voice... [13:45] I want to know it... [13:45] Heard that one before, but it's a nice one. [13:45] O_O [13:45] Biblically? [13:45] In the biblical sense... [13:45] yes. [13:45] YES> [13:45] lol [13:45] Who is this "Denis" you speak of? [13:45] ? [13:45] o.O [13:45] NO MORE EUPHEMISMS [13:45] :D [13:45] wuphat: Denis is the co-host of the show. [13:45] o.O ... [13:45] I'm not sure I get that joke [13:45] And he has a voice that makes God cry. [13:45] I know...sorry...sarcasm didn't translate [13:45] It's true. [13:45] No, no it does not. [13:45] lol [13:45] Sarcasm never works in a text media. [13:46] Im not sure how thats sarcastic [13:46] Not quite true. [13:46] That's not really true. [13:46] LIES [13:46] Depends on context. [13:46] Okay, but if God WERE real... He'd cry. [13:46] Hey, stop ignoring my existence [13:46] :D [13:46] Just gtfo? [13:46] :) [13:46] Shut up, gtfo... [13:46] lol [13:46] * MasterSivers facepalms [13:46] :0 [13:46] not without tags [13:46] *facepalms [13:46] * Dave has joined #nonprophets [13:46] Pacefalms [13:47] * Oscar has joined #nonprophets [13:47] Welcome Dave. [13:47] PooSham [13:47] Welcome oscar. [13:47] Thanks [13:47] EvidenceOrGTFO: but if you're a solipsist, you're ignoring yourself :) [13:47] There is technically a punctuation mark that is just not used for sarcasm, irony and the like. [13:47] YOURE A SOLIPSIST?! [13:47] haha [13:47] Damn your reasoning! [13:47] I remember that one! [13:47] :D [13:47] Same here! [13:47] hehe [13:48] *CLICK* [13:48] It was like a 20 min conversation before they finally found out! [13:48] lolz [13:48] All three of us said it at the same time when I first watched that one. [13:48] Quite awesome [13:48] Indeed. [13:48] hahaha [13:48] yeah [13:48] I heard a click! Is it starting? [13:49] Mike Tests. [13:49] Gotchya. [13:49] Whuwhuwhat? [13:49] 5 member of NPs [13:49] * MasterSivers admits that he yells at his computer often when stupidity is just obvious. [13:49] Yeah... I do too [13:49] I miss Schilling. [13:49] During the ray comfort call in [13:49] Roid rage [13:50] Shilling yes [13:50] Im listening to him right now [13:50] Old shows [13:50] Hey reason, did you see your other half's picture "Someone is wrong on the internet!" post? [13:50] "How about some dead kids"? [13:50] I found Ray to be surprisingly pleasant with comparison to how I've seen him before. (Only with his attitude, NOT what he was saying) [13:50] Ray speak well. I just think he's a moron ^_^ [13:50] Yes he sounded... Nice [13:51] I thought he was just a douche [13:51] he's one of those guys who has practice in debate - and even though it's crap he's selling, he does it well [13:51] Oh absolutely. [13:51] But he seems like a nice guy [13:51] snake oil salesman [13:51] EvidenceOrGTFO: yes... i did. [13:51] But i dunno... [13:51] Nice, but foolish... [13:51] Yeah [13:52] Man.... I can't wait until the street preachers start up around here [13:52] His only error is founding his beliefs on a presupposition. [13:52] MasterSivers: as it turns out, people who you disagree with can be nice people, and still have (from your point of view) wrong opinions. :p [13:52] True story, debdrup [13:52] I thought he was found out against Matt and Russell the other week not that that will stop him [13:52] That's exactly what I was saying debdrup. [13:52] * c6c6dog has quit IRC (Goodbye) [13:52] * c6c6dog has joined #nonprophets [13:52] My apologies for being unclear. [13:52] Why can't people just conform to be unpleasent and wrong. [13:52] * Donny- has joined #nonprophets [13:53] Clearly there's something wrong with the world. [13:53] * starlightchild has joined #nonprophets [13:53] lmao [13:53] * mz has joined #nonprophets [13:53] stupid civil conversations [13:53] Denis! Denis! Denis! [13:53] Short bursts of people joining [13:53] slackers [13:53] The sad part is, that there are plenty of other things wrong with the world than it not conforming to such notions. [13:53] Denis is present at matts place [13:53] Llama_Man: that's the way it usually is. [13:53] Awesome! [13:53] I'd go gay for Denis... [13:54] o_O [13:54] Me too [13:54] TMI [13:54] Pity he won't go gay for you? ;) [13:54] Just thought I'd put that out there... [13:54] lol [13:54] He probably would [13:54] Denis doesn't struck me as someone who'd just change his sexuality on a dime. [13:54] * DorisES has joined #nonprophets [13:54] All the same, I'd settle for Denis doing my voicemail message. [13:54] Imagine having bunch of gay slaves to do your pidding. We truly wouldn't have free will then. [13:54] That would be sweet. [13:54] Everytime I hear the name Denis, I can't help but think of the Unconstitutional Peasant sketch from monty python :o [13:54] who climbed a board the Dennis love bandwagon? [13:55] I did. [13:55] ;-) [13:55] There's even pizza named after him here [13:55] Not me [13:55] http://66.90.151.105:8000/listen.pls ? [13:55] 5 minutes till showtime! ^_^ [13:55] I want to just destroy this rubriks cube [13:55] * Roland has joined #nonprophets [13:55] woot [13:56] Denis is already warming up those godly vocal cords of his. [13:56] I solved one side [13:56] Llama_Man: destroy it and put it together in the right way? :P [13:56] * Adhriva has joined #nonprophets [13:56] *thumbs up* [13:56] Russell in house yet? [13:56] If you've solved one side then the other sides should be solved too. [13:56] brb [13:56] Eh [13:56] Well russell isn't here hogging our stream [13:56] Do you know what rubriks cube is [13:56] * Jmart has joined #nonprophets [13:56] hahaha [13:57] Russell is in traffic [13:57] so show will be late waiting for him? [13:57] You can be sure that the one time the show will ACTUALLY start will not be the time that is sheduled to. [13:57] back and ready [13:57] giggidy giggidy [13:57] Some say Denis can kill with his mind, and that his teeth glow in the dark. [13:57] Aren't we talking about a (usually) six sided dice made of 9 individual boxes with the outside-facing side colored one of 6 colors, Llama_Man? [13:57] I need to get to sleep eventually ugh [13:58] Indeed we are debdrup [13:58] Tough it out, bro... [13:58] Just until 4:30pm [13:58] lol i am [13:58] kk [13:58] they were drilling slow as shit [13:58] coring right now [13:58] that sucks [13:59] Llama_Man: I'm pretty sure if you solve 6x6 cube by getting all the colors on one side, the others should fit. [13:59] Only if done right [13:59] I have on side(blue) completely done [13:59] Llama_Man: Totally random, but do you play PWI? [13:59] * Xemu has joined #nonprophets [13:59] Spell it out please [13:59] Is the requirement two adjacent sides, then? [13:59] PWI? [14:00] I can never remember. [14:00] Perfect World International [14:00] whassat? [14:00] I signed up but i never played it [14:00] And whuut debdrup? [14:00] Okay. I was wondering because there was a guy I new online who went by the name Llama [14:00] Though you were him. [14:00] Llama_Man: if two sides on a 6x6 rubiks cube are solved, the cube should be solved, I think. [14:01] I dont think that is correct either, ill try to solve another side [14:01] EvidenceOrGTFO: MMORPG [14:01] Err, 3x3x3 [14:01] Game... Online... [14:01] hello all [14:01] anyone else see that all the Atheist Exp. Videos on google are about to be removed [14:02] damn it i cant rotate anything and not fuck it up royally [14:02] Yes! [14:02] Jesus!! [14:02] lolz [14:02] DAVE WHAT [14:02] christ! [14:02] yeah its a chrisis [14:02] Ihttp://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2011/04/everybody-chill-archive-is-secure.html [14:02] SAY IT ISNT TRUE [14:02] haha [14:02] All google video is about to be removed, therefor also ath.exp. [14:02] * Dan has joined #nonprophets [14:02] that is a great article name [14:03] So [14:03] Ill have to buy the dvds? [14:03] bunnies? [14:03] Llama_Man: the only thing I can remember about rubiks cubes now is if you pull it together, there are 519,024,039,293,878,272,000 ways to assemble it again. [14:03] Numbers tend to stick in my head. [14:04] Yeah... Not in mine [14:04] And this cube goes through the window [14:04] whee [14:04] i call made up number [14:04] Actually ill let it lie here with the finished side facing me [14:04] * Freetinkler has joined #nonprophets [14:04] So i can imagine i solved it [14:04] * wuphat has quit IRC (wuphat) [14:04] Llama_Man: Nice. [14:05] Llama_Man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-dimensional_sequential_move_puzzle#Magic_5D_Cube :) [14:05] Pesky wabbits. [14:05] * kawn has joined #nonprophets [14:05] what happened to 6? [14:05] idk [14:05] Debdrup, my brain hurts looking at that [14:05] heh [14:05] Im not SMRT [14:05] Should we respond with : 3 [14:05] homer [14:06] * kawn has quit IRC (kawn) [14:06] Llama_Man: n-dimentionality is fun! [14:06] Or 8? [14:06] You missed 6 [14:06] debrup im pretty sure robots and aliens are the only ones who can do some of those [14:06] Six [14:06] Six! [14:06] Six!!! [14:06] * Kawn has joined #nonprophets [14:06] * Dan has quit IRC (Dan) [14:06] Dave: some people can. [14:06] 156 [14:06] Hut hut HIKE. [14:06] Uhmu: good song by Mew. [14:06] matt, stop [14:07] lol [14:07] what song? [14:07] I am getting a mega buffer. Just heard the non-six [14:07] Show started yet? [14:07] I won't be tuning in again, so you guys can fight over the bandwidth amongst yourselves. I'll just listen to the podcast. [14:08] I might do that too if the audio fucks up again [14:08] Lag and buffering [14:09] I'll buffer your lag [14:09] all right [14:09] * Chris has joined #nonprophets [14:09] I've pretty much given up trying to listen to live broadcasts due to buffering - I'd much rather listen to the superior quality of the podcast at my leasure. [14:09] Yeah [14:10] I should not have refreshed, one of you jackels got my link up, oh well debdrup makes a good point [14:10] * Oscar has quit IRC (Oscar) [14:10] yea fuck live show :D it will be up soon enough [14:10] I do make good points. :P [14:10] Yay me. [14:10] Occasionally [14:10] . . . [14:10] ..yeah. :P [14:10] * Chris is now known as gnardude [14:10] Sorry for the N00b question, but this is my first attempt at listening to the show live. Should I be using a mirror link? [14:10] So - Where do I find more details about the Google Video loosing the ath.exp video - I was wondering about the rationale. [14:10] they can still be downloaded Xemu [14:11] Apparently google is deleting all google videes [14:11] Xemu: I think they're shutting down all of Google Video. [14:11] google video has download buttons [14:11] I would wait for the podcast, but I work 80 hours a week... This is the only live show I get to listen to. [14:11] :-( [14:11] * SubTachyon has quit IRC [14:11] eyeofreason: well, sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it too. [14:11] Man there isnt any pollen in the air yet but my eyes still itch, wtf [14:11] Google video vs youtube [14:11] Yeah, I know. [14:12] * dkeenaghan has joined #nonprophets [14:12] i can't find the download button [14:13] * Uhmu has quit IRC (Uhmu) [14:13] * dkeenaghan has quit IRC (dkeenaghan) [14:13] I dont think there is any [14:13] Youll need some downloader [14:14] Show started yet? [14:14] * Kawn has left #nonprophets [14:14] Not yet. [14:14] I wanna play minecraft [14:14] Just static. [14:15] Mmh [14:15] Age, people? [14:15] 23 [14:15] 20 [14:15] 21 [14:15] Old and grumpy describes me rather well, I think. [14:15] 24 [14:15] * gunther has joined #nonprophets [14:15] People often agree with me on that one. [14:16] Yeah i do [14:16] ..I can't imagine why. [14:16] "cerebral humor" [14:16] Ok, we're fixing to start. [14:16] 36 [14:16] Sweet. [14:16] 21 [14:16] Lol many in the twenties [14:17] 26 [14:17] Starting [14:17] They shouldn't call it the "New Atheist" movement... Rather the "Young Atheist" movement. [14:17] lol [14:17] Really? [14:17] 32 [14:17] What link do i click to listen? [14:17] * quantheory has joined #nonprophets [14:17] Check the NP homepage and use the .pls links [14:18] I hear Russell! [14:18] :) [14:18] FUCK. Its buffering like crazy. [14:18] ahh - Zombie-Day Music for a few seconds - - - then silence. [14:18] The stream takes about 30 live listeners and struggles when full. [14:19] Completely unlistenable [14:19] * quantheory has quit IRC (quantheory) [14:19] Well this sucks [14:19] I can hear pretty well... [14:19] Sorry. [14:19] Country? [14:19] US [14:19] Yeah... [14:19] Uh.. [14:19] there it goes [14:20] sounds good here, i picked it up again [14:20] Depending on his location in the US and your location in Sweden, you still might have a better connection than him. [14:20] my credit card numbe ris.... [14:20] Really? [14:20] The US internet infrastructure is pretty terrible, some places. [14:20] Oh well [14:20] :/ [14:20] hear a song [14:20] I want to be a mighty wizard! [14:20] Alright so is there any way i can fix this? [14:21] That's a lot of variables, though - but yeah, like mond said: The stream takes 30 listeners and that's the absolute maximum. [14:21] Ok [14:21] Not short of you forcing other people to disconnect, no. [14:21] No one that has a stream set up? [14:21] A restream? Nope, not anymore as far as I know. [14:21] Drats [14:21] The ones that did exist are long gone. [14:22] Since you're Swedish and probably have plenty of bandwidth, why don't you? :P [14:22] Oh well i guess ill listen to the upload later [14:22] I would [14:22] You Swedes and your 100Mbps and 1Gbps connections. [14:22] But it doesnt work [14:22] I mean [14:22] Well, it'd require you to get the stream first, yeah.. :P [14:22] It stutters like crazy [14:22] ...Yeah [14:22] Lol [14:22] There are ways to make that happen, though. [14:23] i don't want to tempt fate, but here in the middle of the pacific ocean: no buffer issues [14:23] Magic? [14:23] yeah magic [14:23] I'm pretty sure Shoutcast has a feature that lets restreaming servers get more bandwidth via QoS. [14:23] QoS might as well be magic for how arcane it is. [14:23] meaningless terms to me [14:23] :P [14:23] True dat, debdrup. [14:24] I skipped showering for the show [14:24] I'm going to free up some bandwith and listen to the podcast. Keep up the great work! [14:24] Llama_Man: just let me get access to your system, your credit card and your favorite girl(s) and everything will be fixed. :P [14:24] Thankfully, I'm running Linux Ubuntu and it really helps compared to Windows' method of reserving 20% bandwidth. [14:24] eyeofreason: uh, that's kind of a lie. [14:24] huh? How so? [14:24] ALRIGHT HERE'S MY CARD NUMBER: [14:25] "Favorite girls"? [14:25] I've got gigabit on cat6 set up with 8k jumbo frames, and I can completely max out my connection in both Windows, FreeBSD and OSX. [14:25] ... What does that mean [14:25] Llama_Man: well, do you have any girls that you like? [14:26] Charlie chase [14:26] If not, I'm bisexual, so I'll take anything. :P [14:26] ... Wahahahaahaha [14:26] I'm not a necrophile, sorry. [14:26] Sexuality is a complex subject we are all BI [14:26] debdrup: XP, Vista or 7? [14:26] eyeofreason: Windows 7, of course. [14:26] Um we might be talking about different charle chase's [14:27] XP is a decade old and Vista should've been thrown out with the bathwater. [14:27] Vista... *shivers* [14:27] You can't compare XP to an os that has a new netstack (n*x) [14:27] Well, I know XP (at least) was using a 20% restriction on bandwidth for processes with higher priorities. [14:27] You might as well compare Windows 3.11 For Workgroups to OSX 10.7 [14:27] :-( [14:28] I aways thought Vista was as bad as Windows ME [14:28] Like I said, that's an unfair comparison. [14:28] Ubuntu is nice but windows 7 is the best. [14:28] Vista was okay if you knew how to tweak it - but it shouldn't have been released to the public in its state. [14:28] I just got 11.04 and it's sweet. [14:28] WINDOWS 95 is where it's at! [14:28] * Freetinkler has quit IRC (Freetinkler) [14:28] natty is looking alright now [14:28] Yep. [14:29] * Adhriva has left #nonprophets [14:29] I'm more of a unix guy myself, haven't looked much at linux in what seems like forever. [14:30] When Ubuntu finally gets Unity, I might check that out - but otherwise I'm sticking with FreeBSD and gnome3. [14:30] All i remember was Me having me switch to fedora 4 and been linux all the way since then [14:30] 11.04 is running Unity. [14:30] ^_^ [14:30] * Blahface has joined #nonprophets [14:30] And 11.04 is -RELEASE? [14:30] * MikeTheInfidel has joined #nonprophets [14:30] <_< [14:30] Yep. [14:31] Err, that's a FreeBSD term. Is 11.04 released? [14:31] I blanked my win7 machine and ran 11.04 for a few days. Its was good but had to go back to win7 for specific apps. [14:31] Yes, I'ts out. [14:31] Not for LTS, but it's out of beta. [14:31] mond: hence why I triple-boot Windows 7, OSX (natively :D) and FreeBSD. [14:31] for class on monday, i am to write on the evolution of auturism, i am very happy to get such a chance [14:31] * buzzard has joined #nonprophets [14:31] So it's not -RELEASE, then, eyeofreason. [14:31] I don't beta-test software if I can avoid it. [14:31] yay stream! [14:32] ever heard of inclusive fitness, or reciprocal alturism? [14:32] Technically, yes. [14:32] * Blahface has quit IRC (Blahface) [14:32] Win7 has a great imaging backup system...so you can return it to its previous state very easily. [14:32] It just hasn't hit LTS yet. [14:32] eyeofreason: 11.04 isn't on the webpage for easy download, so it's not -RELEASE in the FreeBSD sense. [14:33] Linux is just.. Urgh at times. [14:33] Okay. I'm out, guys. peace [14:33] bed time [14:33] I thought reason was wrong the second beta was just out a few days ago i think [14:33] On FreeBSD-RELEASE you know something is ready to be put on production servers. [14:33] Agreed, but from personal experience, much better than Windows. [14:33] GTFOGTFO [14:33] 7 and Natty are about on par. [14:33] Final Release isn't for a few weeks as i understand it [14:33] Yes, but personal experience isn't worth much, eyeofreason. :P [14:33] It tends to be very biased. [14:33] * Roland has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224]) [14:34] True. Enjoy Windows, sir. ^_^ [14:34] * Spazfox has quit IRC (Spazfox) [14:34] I'm not on Windows right now, right now I'm in OSX. [14:34] Oh... Okay. Enjoy OSX then. ^_^ [14:34] Lag fest again :( Will be listening to the download... [14:34] lolz [14:34] I really have no reason to boot to Windows for the forseeable future, because Portal 2 will be released to OSX.. :P [14:34] 4/19\ [14:35] I love triple-booting, and startup times of ~30 seconds. [14:35] SSDs are <3. [14:35] Yeah, I'm lagging too, now... [14:35] :-( [14:35] * EvidenceOrGTFO has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224]) [14:35] * starlightchild has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0/20110318052756]) [14:35] I am just really stuck in my ways. I have been an ms user since dos v3. I may need help:-) [14:36] fucking amazing, I disconnect for 3 seconds and I can't get back in [14:36] I remember MSDOS3 [14:36] I was trying to set up a restream too [14:36] Those were the days. [14:36] MikeTheInfidel: :( [14:36] had to close winamp to install the shoutcast stream plugin [14:36] that was before dosshell right? [14:36] YAY I'm back [14:36] MikeTheInfidel: if you're serious about a restream, you should PM Matt about trying to get it set up properly so you always have some bandwidth reserved. [14:37] jjavaholic: dosshell was in 6 afair. [14:37] sorry, 4 [14:37] 6 was the last version it was in [14:38] well, in from release.. it was on the supplemental disk according to the wiki [14:38] shows what i know [14:38] :Non-Prophets: Yay, for quote-mining! lolz [14:38] When I was 8 in '81 I was using basic on a P2000 :) [14:38] * Kazim has joined #nonprophets [14:39] I learned BASIC when I was 6 on my C64 [14:39] * debdrup sets mode: +o Kazim [14:39] * sputnic has joined #nonprophets [14:39] Err, maybe 7. [14:39] ..it's been a while. [14:40] This chat is all tecktalk [14:40] Well, people are free to talk about anything they want - and I can't talk about what's happening on the show since I can't listen. [14:40] Well this is boring, bbyeeee [14:40] * Llama_Man has quit IRC (Llama_Man) [14:41] Talking about quote mining. [14:41] Quote mining is always fun. [14:41] Indeed. [14:42] its hard to know how far ahead/back anyone else is [14:42] Just jumped off the stream...Too laggy [14:43] Mines just buffering for 10 seconds every 4-5 minutes. [14:43] So, not too bad. [14:44] what is the line between finding a quote that supports your point, and quote mining? [14:44] Quote mining is, I think, taking something out of context. [14:46] * gunther has quit IRC (http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [14:47] That's exactly what it is. [14:47] greetings from germany [14:47] Greetings to germany. [14:48] Guten tag. [14:48] ;-) [14:48] yo [14:48] I wouldn't normally associate quote mining with non text output. [14:48] Not necessarily. [14:48] * eyeofreason has quit IRC (eyeofreason) [14:49] probably an error on my behalf. [14:50] it is possible to quotemine by repeating, but letting away the sarcastic tone [14:50] Mmmmmm, I find that I certainly don't mind listening to Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra playing various pieces of classical music.. [14:50] It is, if anything, a very good way to spend the evening. [14:51] bertrand russel thought, he was the pope [14:51] * Konradius has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158]) [14:52] Basically, quote mining is taking something somebody said, in any format, either without taking the context (this includes mood) into consideration, quoting something that is outdated or contradicted in later writings (IF they are asserting that said person believes that or believed that without mentioning that their mind changed), or using different definitions or understandings of terms without explaining what they [14:52] meant to the author. [14:52] bertrand russel is the pope!!!! [14:53] Noooo... [14:53] ok a good cover of quote mining,\ [14:54] Even if there was to be an atheist “popeâ€, there would need to be a new term for said person because of a multitude of reasons I expect obvious. [14:54] I think WLC figured that the more I attack Harris the person the more his argument succeeds [14:54] sam harris should have encountered this with the euphecuron-dillemma much earlier [14:56] I thought Harris Dealt with the questions better [14:56] If his argument was specifically about the argumentum ad hominem itself (or a derivative of it) or not, anything else is a fallacy. [14:57] Shit. [14:57] I meant that saying that his argument succeeds because of how you respond for any other reason is a fallacy. [14:58] Didn't mean to kill the conversation... [14:58] have not seen this video yet [14:59] who here has seen it? [14:59] I think I have, but am unsure. [14:59] Yay rejection! [14:59] a new news item cometh [15:00] golly, portal 2 shore nuff is fun [15:01] Swamp people... lol. [15:01] French + Southern Redneck. Yep. [15:01] Mike has portal 2? [15:01] You can be my new best friend... [15:02] 3 more days [15:02] what was that Obama said about religious nuts clinging to their guns and bibles? [15:02] oh... right... [15:02] Interesting, I haven't heard/read about that one yet. [15:02] yes, portal 2. Steve Merchant does a voice of one of the main characters. makes it all that much better. [15:03] * mond has quit IRC (mond) [15:05] people are plenty capable of doing things but they won't because of Jesus and such [15:06] Just a friendly little warning that I'll visit great violence upon anyone who spoils Portal 2, because that game is going to fucking rock.. :P [15:06] it does :D [15:06] HOORAY FOR HACKED XBOX [15:07] Boo for pirating. >:( [15:07] yay for I'll buy it when it's released [15:07] Oh, I thought you had it already? [15:07] he wants to support them [15:07] I do have it already, but I'll buy it too [15:07] I've been reading the Portal 2 thread on SomethingAwful these past days, and it's funny how people suddenly appear to work in a games-shop because they're able to play the game early. [15:08] I just downloaded it, lol [15:08] I don't get it - if you're going to buy it anyway, why not join in the fun of waiting? [15:08] because the fun in waiting is marketing hype, not fun [15:08] You're missing out on the ARG too, I bet. [15:08] I've never found those the least bit interesting [15:08] Whelp. [15:08] dragon [15:08] Your loss, believe me. [15:09] if you already are going to buy it, marketing is not aimed at you [15:09] "Whelp" is an expression.. [15:09] whelp [15:09] Your loss if you get caught. [15:09] * buzzard has quit IRC (Leaving.) [15:10] Dave: the marketing he's talking about is the ARG event that Valve is doing, where they're having GLaDOS "reboot" via people buying an indie games pack and collecting potatoes (I don't know why) in an effort to release the game earlier. [15:10] It's actually fun and finding the potatoes and getting them is hard(but fun). [15:10] "That jumpsuit looks stupid on you. It's not me saying that - it's right here in your file. A scientist has noted that while it looks fine on others, it looks stupid on you. Well, what does a neck-bearded old engineer know about fashion? He probably - oh, wait - it's a she! Still, what does she know? Oh wait, it says she has a medical degree - in fashion! From France!" [15:10] ... [15:10] --GLaDOS [15:10] did you seriously just spoil portal 2. [15:11] you fucking retard. [15:11] no, lol [15:11] that potatoe thing does sound a bit gimicy [15:11] don't. fucking. be. a. dick. [15:11] * MasterSivers 's head just exploded. [15:11] I posted a paragraph of dialogue, lol [15:11] nothing spoiled [15:11] I've lived in a mostly complete media blackout because I want to have fun playing the game. [15:11] That's enough of a spoiler. [15:11] everyone knows GLaDOS is back [15:11] You fucking prick. [15:11] shut your trap mike [15:11] SPOILER: GLADOS THINKS YOU SUCK [15:12] You are a fucking dick, you know that. [15:12] Just because you can't keep your filthy pirate fingers off stuff and actually enjoy it you have to ruin it for someone else too. [15:12] SPOILER: YOUR NAME IS CHELL [15:12] Pathetic piece of worthless shit. [15:13] * MikeTheInfidel was kicked by debdrup (trolling is NOT acceptible behaviour) [15:13] justified [15:13] * MasterSivers applauds [15:13] * MikeTheInfidel has joined #nonprophets [15:13] A sequel? [15:14] Pen Stabing = WTF [15:15] what was this guy thinking [15:16] Mostly people don't. [15:16] Mutilating himself because he didn't get what he wants? Sounds like something a very spoiled child would do that has mental retardation to some degree. [15:16] I was hoping to have a witness' account of the Ask an atheist thing, but my VA tech friend didn't call me back. :( [15:17] MasterSivers: self-mutilation when you don't get your way is in children not unheard of but I think it's an actual illness when it's something adults do.. [15:17] I seem to recall reading that somewhere. [15:17] proof by stabbing [15:17] matt and russle disagree about circumc [15:17] Circumcision? [15:17] yep [15:17] Sure, but it's still not something that a healthy child would do. Depression is likely also a possibility. [15:18] I know a guy who had that done to himself for pleasure. [15:18] ...there are some crazy people out there. [15:18] That's hardly the same thing. [15:18] No, I just wanted to mention that. :P [15:18] I realize people have their own fixes. [15:18] ;) [15:19] I tend to lean towards it's wrong to do to children - but then I think it's wrong to baptize children. [15:19] It's also wrong to indoctrinate children. [15:19] ..but I don't have children of my own, so my opinion probably doesn't count for much. [15:19] I have a friend who likes to feel restricted, have knives pointed at her and pressed against her, and actually has a fantasy of being stabbed to death. [15:19] splashing with water is other then cutting pieces off [15:20] She's not crazy enough to act on the last bit, but... [15:20] I need a portal gun. [15:20] genetalia mutilation is wrong, curcumcision should not be done on kids [15:20] open a portal between my apartment and my workplace. [15:21] I agree with you debdrup, where children are concerned. [15:21] MasterSivers: there are some weird fucking fetishes (pun fully intended) out there, that's for sure. [15:21] spoiler: turrets piss me the fuck off [15:21] I know. [15:21] MikeTheInfidel: stop trolling, now. [15:21] 1. It's spelled Tourettes, and 2. Stop being a dousch bag Mike. [15:22] Turrets. [15:22] Nevermind. [15:22] ... you have a weird definition of trolling [15:22] I rescind 1. [15:22] Turrets and tourettes are two different things. [15:22] I know. [15:22] I realized that. [15:22] Can a turret have tourettes? [15:22] I thought he was trying to be pertinent to the mental thing. [15:22] in portal it can [15:23] It's a perfectly understandable mistake. [15:23] thank you for saying it for me Dave, wouldn't want to be accused of trolling -_- [15:23] >_< [15:23] mike just stay of the topic [15:23] all to geth er [15:23] geth? [15:23] wasn't that a thing in mass effect [15:24] Oh man, Geth. [15:24] lol [15:24] am i not speaking fucking slow enough [15:24] to+geth+er = together... [15:24] * MasterSivers facepalms. [15:24] oh ok the geth ha ha ok [15:24] How did you not get that? [15:24] Now I wanna play Mass Effect. [15:25] I never finished the first one :/ [15:25] Damn, I forgot it's reduced to an hour. >_< ;( [15:25] You should. The second one has some very deep moral choices. [15:25] thats good i can get back to this lab write up [15:25] all of a sudden I have an urge to buy a stuffed Weighted Companion Cube [15:25] I have one of those. [15:25] :D! [15:26] Plushy weighted companion cube. [15:26] [<3] [15:26] Companion cube? I don't think I know what that is. [15:26] ooh! [15:26] lol [15:26] Dear Google... [15:26] MasterSivers: you need to get Steam and buy Portal. [15:26] Probably. [15:26] (Actually you can probably get it for free) [15:26] I have a Mac. [15:26] No, you -need- to do it. [15:26] MUST [15:26] Portal runs on Mac. [15:26] it's a moral obligatino [15:26] Oh? [15:27] (So will Portal 2) [15:27] ion* [15:27] It was the first Mac-capable Steam game ever, MasterSivers. [15:27] Link? [15:27] eh, steampowered.com [15:28] Portal has been a free giveaway (including when Steam was first launched on Mac) something like 20 times. [15:29] Yeah, see... I don't have money, or rather... I don't have a credit card. [15:29] Well, if you create a Steam account and PM me your email, I'll ask around if someone can gift you a free copy. [15:30] what possible service could a pastor think TAE provides [15:30] There are plenty of free copies around. [15:30] Cool. [15:30] if not free, cheap [15:30] at the least [15:30] No, the gifts are free. [15:30] ah didn't read [15:31] Portal itself is only something like 9 bucks, but if he doesn't have a credit card that does make it a bit hard to buy even that. [15:31] * MasterSivers nods... [15:35] thats the end then [15:36] good bit of news [15:36] TIME FOR CAKE [15:36] IT'S OVERRRR [15:37] can an omnipotent god imune to pain torture itself so that it suffers? [15:37] no [15:37] next [15:39] * DorisES has quit IRC (DorisES) [15:39] ? 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