Session Start: Sat Aug 26 13:10:27 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:10] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:10] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, August 26th, 2006! at 3:00pm eastern on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [13:10] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Aug 12 15:33:50 [13:10] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:11] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (2pm central)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [13:11] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (2pm central)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [13:12] I wish the time could be expressed in UT as well. ZULU, GMT, whatever. [13:13] I am confused about this eastern time thing. [13:13] I don't know when the daylight savin kicks in, or even if it does. [13:13] It's confusing. [13:14] I can do that...just a sec. [13:15] Only confusing for limeys like me. [13:15] he he. [13:15] ;) [13:15] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [13:15] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [13:15] It will be 3 pm Eastern time in 45 minutes. [13:15] w00t! [13:16] time for me to go to the shop and get some beers. It's nice to listen in the evening, I don't feel so bad about getting drunk. [13:16] The only reason you guys like UTC is because there's no real change from what you're used to ;) [13:16] You're absolutely correct. [13:17] English computer programmers have trouble doing timezones correctly. :) [13:18] Pre-show music: Artist - Ten Inch Men ... Album - Pretty Vultures (1993). A decent album that no one really heard about. [13:18] Since I worked abroad, I keep the second time on my watch to UTC, just to get myself used to compensating for daylight saving etc. [13:18] Ooh, I'll connect after I come back from the shop. [13:18] Alwas good to hear new music. [13:19] actually I connected alreadyy. [13:19] Whoever just connected, don't freak out, I'm restarting the album :) [13:20] That was me [13:20] Sounds vaguely skid rowish [13:21] From the piccy on the site front page, Russell Glasser looks like someone. I think out of some band. Dont know what I mean yet. [13:21] (is that you, Non-Prophets?) [13:21] Despite the fact that they broke up and the lead went on to another failed band...I prefer this album to anything Skid Row ever did. But that's probably just me :) [13:21] <-- Matt [13:21] I'm "not pictured" there [13:21] Oh, Hi Matt. [13:21] Wise to avoid piccies I think. [13:21] But there's a pic on the wiki and the tv show site [13:21] I always regret photographic evidence of my presence... [13:22] Nah, I gave up that battle as soon as I started doing live TV. 30 pictures per sec...most of the 90 minutes per week... pictures are now trivial [13:22] For example, the picture on my ironcharoits page: http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=User:Libraryjuice [13:22] heh e [13:23] Yeah, I got a good chuckle out of that [13:23] Don't ask. I don't even remember it being taken. I had to deduce when it was from the surroundings. [13:23] Thing is, from what I can tell I must have been 100% sober. [13:23] AFK a few...setting up mics and stuff [13:24] OK. I'm off to the shop. [13:31] * blat has joined #nonprophets [13:32] * aANKOo has joined #nonprophets [13:32] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [13:38] Messing with music, sorry if your entertainment was destroyed [13:40] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:40] Ah, ladies and gentlemen, it's almost that time again.... [13:40] 20 minutes...give or take [13:41] yep. [13:41] give or take one beer and a bag of barbeque chips [13:42] test that mic [13:42] pull my finger [13:43] wait, let me open a window first.. [13:43] * stephenark has joined #nonprophets [13:44] * stephenark has left #nonprophets [13:44] BRB [13:44] no sound? [13:46] no soudn [13:46] and we're also under attack again....I'm working on it, but you're PROBABLY still connected [13:46] Yes, I think I'm connected still. [13:47] Does this happen frequently? [13:47] * stephenark has joined #nonprophets [13:47] What is the IP of the attacker? [13:49] huh. those freaks just don't quit do they? [13:49] probably some religious freeper nutters [13:50] 70.128.227.154 is the IP, he's stopped again. I've already contacted his ISP [13:50] * Aerik has joined #nonprophets [13:51] Everything's back to normal and anyone who's not already connected, should connect now - but you won't hear anything for about 10 minutes [13:51] HI/ [13:51] Hiya Aerik [13:51] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [13:51] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [13:51] sorry bout those caps. didn't let go of shift. [13:51] iTunes is still rolling along for me. . . [13:51] hm. time for a beer [13:51] BRB again [13:53] There's even a freephone number for reporting abuse. Might be a good idea to start a packet sniffer to have some evidence and then use the freephone number to report it - bound to get a better response than by email. [13:53] ...and Check. I'm solidly connected to http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [13:53] ethereal (now called wireshark) will record network traffic for you. There are many others. [13:54] I'm going to have to leave early though, b/c I'm babysitting my nephew at 3c/4e [13:54] What a stupid fuck, he's not even attacking via some anonymizer like tor. [13:54] Is it just one guy? looser! [13:54] This is my first time in the chat room, do you guys get these attackers a lot? [13:55] Next week, run a packet sniffer, get a log of the traffic from his IP. [13:55] I only remember the last two shows [13:55] or have they been doing this for longer? [13:55] What sort of attack is he doing? swamping with connect requests? [13:55] cant remember it talked about before that.. [13:56] on the show..I normaly do podcast.. [13:56] My goodness, he's even got icmp open. [13:56] hm. can we nick a name or at least an addy? [13:57] shocking [13:57] * ChristOnIce has joined #nonprophets [13:57] * atxcats has joined #nonprophets [13:58] * bnem has joined #nonprophets [13:58] someone get more chairs; room's filling up [13:58] the streaming server cannot accept any more connections at this time [13:58] Is this the same guy who's IP was captured and reported to the proper authorities, and one of the hosts was like, "My Kung Fu is way fucking better than yours!" ? [13:59] my connection still holds [13:59] yeah, mine too [13:59] I'm gettin the music! [13:59] The problem with reporting this sort of stuff to the "authorities" that that they usually ignore it. [13:59] i'll gry again [13:59] try [13:59] cry [13:59] I'm connected - no music [13:59] You have to send them a letter looking like it comes from a lawyer before they'll do anything. [13:59] Music started...but you're on a delay [13:59] as long as it isn't a tom delay [14:00] Aha, audio! [14:00] here we go [14:00] Should be hearing it now [14:00] hello all :D [14:00] yep [14:00] music! [14:00] weird music! [14:00] the best kind [14:00] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:00] weirdness is the best [14:00] Lovin it [14:00] (obviously not religios weirdness) [14:01] *religious [14:01] funky [14:01] it IS hte same guy?! lol dumbass! [14:02] only a half dozen?? [14:02] it's a nutter who thinks he's brilliant [14:02] * scarlett75 has joined #nonprophets [14:02] hello [14:02] There's 17 live connects now [14:02] Hiya scarlett [14:02] o.k., i can hear now [14:02] w00t [14:02] I've got it capped at 30 though, everyone else has to enjoy a podcast :) [14:02] For sure you can block his IP using iptables. [14:02] I thought it was the aquabats [14:03] Probably shoutcast has an application level IP block feature. Dunno. I've not used it myself. [14:04] the bat cruise is about the bats that live under that bridge, right? [14:04] Yeah, I'll look into it if this happens a third time :) [14:04] down a river of bat guano [14:04] But Linux can do it for you with iptables (the built-in firewall thing) [14:04] ya gotta love the bats [14:05] Bats are very important [14:05] without bats, we would not have tequila [14:05] seriously, rude? [14:05] yaym confuse the Americans! [14:05] YEah, thanks guys, I have enough trouble doing the two-hour math [14:05] certain bats pollinate the tequila plant [14:05] its in the topic header [14:05] 21.00 in sweden (summer time) [14:05] the blue agave [14:06] Americans don't have funny accents, WTF?! [14:06] gotcha [14:06] Let me get this straight--people from TEXAS are making fun of American accents!? [14:06] library, they've never been to wisconsin [14:06] he he [14:06] The butthole in the bible belt? [14:06] and what exactly is an "american" accent? [14:06] texas is that part of the belt that leaves a bruise on the bible belt [14:06] Ask Hugh Laurie - he's a british guy who mastered the american accent [14:07] Hugh is my hero [14:07] He's not bad. [14:07] always thought of Texas as the boil on the butt of the bible belt -- huh, alliteration [14:07] love writing for him [14:07] Accent-wise, that is. [14:07] Oh goodness, I better start to speak like a Brit, wot wot. [14:07] jolly good, that. [14:07] The NonProphet "Texas" guys don't have Texas accents. What's up with that? [14:07] No, that's Captain Sensible, Wot?! [14:07] I say old fruit, pass a glass of pimms. [14:07] hooray bats! [14:07] some aren't from tx [14:07] thank you [14:07] ;) [14:08] 4 Have youever used the bats in Austin to support atheism? [14:08] like cricket bats? [14:08] so you have to put your booze in a sports bottle [14:08] they are atheist bats, right? [14:08] $17.85 to watch bats. I suppose that you have to be there. [14:08] That's more like enforcement. [14:08] Hanta virus for everyone [14:08] Yeah, the Christians have the dove, and the atheists have the cute, lovable vampire bat. [14:08] lol [14:08] a little fruit bat [14:08] they stole the dove. [14:08] It's $17.85 for the boat cruise...you can watch the bats for free :) [14:09] bats are lovely. [14:09] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. [14:09] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. (Non-Prophets)' [14:09] we get bats here too [14:09] One...one bat. Ah ah ah [14:09] A little late with the "live" message, but oh well [14:09] the first date i went on with my to be husband was to watch the bats [14:09] I can hear bats. [14:09] Chat hosted by irc.wikkedwire.com [14:09] Visit the Atheist Community of Austin website: http://www.atheist-community.org [14:09] Visit the Non-Prophets website: http://www.nonprophetsradio.com [14:09] Welcome! You can connect directly to the LIVE show! Winamp, media player and other software can be used by "connect to URL" or "play URL" features and directing the player to: nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000 (Limited spaces available) [14:09] ? [14:09] I can tell when they're around by the chirps they make. I can also hear the horizontal scan of TVs. It drives me nuts. [14:09] it's nice there are so many in the chatroom today [14:10] the Non-Prophets bot should tell us the *exact* url to insert into our stream-handy media players. http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:11] Network stalled here [14:11] An alternative is to create DVD images and distribute them via bit torrent - get people to burn copies themselves and give to their local schools. Maybe do this in parallel. [14:11] Last night (or wednesday?) Infidel Guy peaked at 136 listeners. [14:11] yeah...just a touch [14:11] bats in austin, http://www.batcon.org/home/index.asp?idPage=122 [14:11] When is the infidel guy show on [14:11] I stopped sending mail and decided to do a blog to bitch [14:11] I usually listen to the podcast. [14:12] Time in UTC please ;) [14:12] 21 listeners? I count 14? [14:12] Oh I guess they mean stream. Nevermind. [14:12] * NeutronJack waves to the listeners. [14:12] hey neutron [14:12] * libraryjuice waves [14:12] Aerik... the listen.pls isn't required in winamp...but I'll add it. Thanks! [14:12] I feel so used [14:13] Non-Prophets: It just works better because you can 'save' the file to the desktop and 'play' it to connect to the stream at any given time, without having to visit the SHOUTcast page. [14:13] Non-Prophets did you post in the Freethoughtmedia host forums? [14:14] I have no idea, but I'll talk to Russell about it after the show is over [14:14] It's also a good URl to bookmark. [14:14] do you get any hate mail....? LOL [14:14] I wanna' hear the hate mail. LOL [14:14] Atheists get the worst hatemail of anybody. [14:14] no, we're so nice and swell that non one hates us [14:14] hmmm - kicked out - server now says it is full??? [14:15] shit, I got a bedside blessing (In the waiting room) from a Christian, while waiting for the CT scan, with a kidney stone. That's gotta' be worth something [14:15] ouch, scarlett! [14:15] yeah [14:15] just for a kidney stone? nothing life threatening? psha. [14:15] double ouch. I've passed two of those myself [14:15] she held a bible To. My. Head. [14:15] My mother has had kidney stones - but she said the ovarian cyst was much worse. [14:16] DOUBLE OUCH (about the bible. to. the. head.) give her a boot. to. the. head. [14:16] Blessed be thy kidney stone, that the lordeth intends for your to passeth [14:16] I yelled at her, so it was all good [14:16] nucular [14:16] I told her that if she was going to pray for me, she needed to pray for dilaudid to fall from the sky [14:17] a what? [14:17] If a tree falls in the forrest...? [14:17] huh? [14:17] What a lovely set of vague questions. [14:17] what is a dilaudid [14:17] dilaudid is pain killer [14:17] it's never one good question. it is always a long list of crap [14:17] That's like saying Darwin's responsible for Hitler... idiots. [14:18] let me overwhelm them with silly assed questions [14:18] what is faith without mystery....? What is a hot dog without ketchup? [14:18] Under attack again, apologies if anyone gets disconnected. [14:18] mention the frappr map!!! [14:18] uh, the religious nutters have or are about to release some video that states just that. that darwin was responsible for the nazis [14:18] i got temporarily bumped [14:18] mention the frappr map!!! [14:18] mention the frappr map!!! [14:18] I set Winamp's DirectSound output's buffer to it's maximum length (20s), prebuffer to 9.9s, and buffer ahead on track change to 10.1s. This really helps to stream audio through Winamp. [14:19] bumped again, i'm gonna go make a martini, perhaps when i get back. . . [14:19] I think it perceives the bump as a track change and buffering ahead forces connection. [14:19] I dunno. [14:20] what's the point of attacking an audio show? It only goes to show that Christians live to be annoying [14:20] http://www.frappr.com/ironcharioteers [14:20] put yourself on the map! [14:20] 15 members so far [14:20] already on it, library [14:20] I remember when the DaVinci Code came out, a grop of 20 Christian protesters stood outside the movie theater near me saying to boycott every theater that shows the movie. [14:21] god told bush to go and secure the oil deposits of iraq - no plan... [14:21] scarlett75: w00t! [14:21] a fine example of xtian silliness. they never learn from their mistakes [14:21] well, and if you take out Satan, there's no need for Jesus. [14:23] if you didn't have mystery, you couldn't get people to tithe 10% of their income to build a mall [14:23] holy shit. I'm watching a cool Jet Li movie on Spike to the side right now. [14:23] there are always plenty of mysteries, without having to believe some stupid belief to "cover the missing knowledge" [14:23] I sounds like the Doglas Adams thing with the babelfish... "Oh yes" said God, "I didn't think of that", and promptly dissapeared in a puff of logic. [14:23] hee hee [14:24] well, and mysteries BEG someone to explore and learn, not sit in a pew and say "Yup. That's a mystery" [14:24] it's the lazy way to live... [14:24] we would never have learned anything without studying and examining the mysteries and making sense of them [14:24] theists are AFRAID of what they are unwilling to take the time to KNOW.. [14:24] exactly, rudeboy [14:24] Hear that Robert Stack, screw you. [14:25] theists are afraid that we will end their need to believe [14:25] I know that's my plan. ;) [14:25] The truth is the religion's "it's a mystery" dogma is really "god did it' dogma - it's the opposite of what it sounds. religious mysticism is a huge feat of mystery. Science is a process of induction - it's epistemology (statistical) - which means nothing is proved 100%. that' s alot of mystery that the religious are attacking. It's actually the scientifically minded person who is OK with... [14:25] ...mystery. [14:25] thereby stripping them of the one thing that gives them a position in life [14:25] huge fear* of mystery. [14:26] where to socks go?! [14:26] yep. How about all that missing dark matter. Well, seems it was found..... [14:26] why do men leave the seat up? [14:26] and the money of their followers to build big ugly churches [14:26] Like is this milk any good? [14:27] why is it I always have to piss after a nice cold beer? now there's a mystery, eh? [14:27] that are built on the backs of others.. [14:27] Like, what about Bananas? I mean, this has to be the ultimate mystery - the Infinite Mystery of the Holy Fruit. [14:27] is it the fault of the brewer? [14:27] the atheist nightmare... LOL [14:27] Do I blame the farmer who grows the hops? [14:27] or is that the yeast of my worries? [14:28] * rudeboy ducks [14:28] no, you blame the wife of the farmer who grew the hops, who had a shag, in the house that Jack built...or something [14:28] I totally pre-empted that way of the mistress girlie. I started a Banan based religion a year or two ago. [14:28] drum riff for rudeboy [14:28] atxcats throws olives at rudeboy [14:28] * rudeboy catches the olives and drops them onto a pizza [14:28] David Cross: Why is Jesus always portrayed like how Charlton Heston did it? What if in reality Jesus sounded like a really affeminite southern guy. " *gasp* y'aaalllll, I just got back from the holy land and Phew! I do not need that smell..." [14:28] now, explain that mystery xtians! [14:28] and i'll bet he wasn't blond [14:29] or redheaded, as the mormons would suggest [14:29] Jeebus smoked the weed.... [14:29] Clearly, God guided Charton Heston's hand, in protraying him correctly. [14:29] Or something. [14:29] Jeebus refused to use Right Guard [14:29] Jeebus had a holy bong? [14:29] Blessed by thy holy bong -- hole... [14:29] Jeebus was a doper [14:30] Heston would've just started blowing away the Romans with a fifty-ought [14:30] from his cold dead hands [14:30] Jeebus was a doper because his Dad created dope... [14:30] You should all join the Cult of the Infinite Mystery of the Banana today! [14:30] he smoked the banana...LOL [14:30] banana extract is a heresy [14:31] imitation banana extract, that is [14:31] yes, you're right...but not x-chrom [14:31] * rudeboy checks his mitochondria [14:31] hm. seems to be all there [14:31] it's DNA that is in the mito-...dammit, Matt beat me [14:31] cult website: http://cotimotb.siteburg.com/ [14:31] "Nuclear DNA"--cool! [14:31] everybody is a mother [14:31] uh, muther [14:31] Shut yo' mouth! [14:31] yes, you're my brother from another mother... *passes the bong* [14:31] Si' we descend from a long chain of descendents [14:32] bananarama [14:32] and we're about 3 percent away from an ape [14:32] I had the word ANCESTOR...if we could just get Christians to adopt the CONCESTOR theory, this would be so much easier [14:32] I "hate" , not I 'had" [14:32] Hey this is a good spot to plug Freethoughtmedias Evolution 101 podcast [14:32] link it [14:32] LOL, the attacker visited the site! [14:32] ah! [14:32] So he's in the room. [14:32] well, how about that [14:33] Hello 70.128.227.154, you are using Firefox/1.5.0.6 [14:33] good boy. [14:33] 2 millinon years ago, homo habillus, that's the mito Eve [14:33] http://www.drzach.net/podcast.htm [14:33] yikes, that me, but i don't think i'm attacking anything [14:33] o_O [14:33] what site did he hit, lj? [14:34] Eve, one of the punctuated differentiated ancestors....? [14:34] say that ten times real fast [14:34] atxcats: Check your IP with http://whatismyipaddress.com/ [14:34] 70.128.227.154 is in Austin, Texas. [14:34] is someone doing a piggyback ride? [14:34] Yup, SWBELL [14:35] 6 million years ago was the first bipedal, Orrorin tugenesis seems to be the most commonly accepted "first humanoid" [14:35] Non-Prophets: My cult site: http://cotimotb.siteburg.com/ [14:35] CONCESTOR [14:35] not ancestor. ARG! [14:35] Sorry [14:35] manchester. [14:35] uuuh [14:35] 70.128.227.154 that's me. yikes [14:36] great book [14:36] OK, false alarm. [14:36] Good for you using firefox though. : [14:36] 70.128.227.154 is responding to PINGs [14:36] i use safari sometimes, too [14:36] I want a lung fish for my van [14:36] Dave63: yes, I noticed ;) [14:36] dave63, what does responding to pings mean? [14:36] So...it seems that your machine, atxcats is responsible for a massive stream of continual requests to connect to the server [14:36] it's half a ping pong game [14:37] how can i stop it? [14:37] we need more pongs [14:37] atxcats: It means your router/modem/whatever is letting through a type of internet traffic which says "are you there?" (it respondes with "yes I am") [14:37] I tried to get on about 10 times in 2 minutes, is that massive? [14:37] does that mean someone is overriding atx's machine [14:37] I sent 4 PING commands and I got 4 responses. [14:37] I'm assuming we're not really under attack, and that there's just something screwy with your machine. :) Mystery solved (partly). [14:37] lol [14:37] Dawkins actually uses the term "Rendesvous", which makes alot of sense [14:37] reset the firewall perhaps? [14:37] ;) [14:38] Well, 10 attempts for you, translates to thousands of actual attempts by the software [14:38] Good job I held off on the port scan and syn flood :D [14:38] any suggestions for unscrewing this? [14:38] deep [14:38] could it be an ident server response? [14:38] Possibly [14:38] atxcats: What s/w do you connect with? [14:38] s/w? [14:38] so what [14:38] software [14:38] sorry, too used to chatting in geeky circles ;) [14:39] atxcats I dont know if this will help at all but www.grc.net can test your firewall to see what ports are open [14:39] I use ZoneAlarm [14:39] bnem: You listen to security now as well? :D [14:39] Basically, I'm just happy to know that it's not some asshat intentionally attempting to DoS us. Hopefully some folks can help atx with any issues...I'm going to drop the search and go back to the show. [14:39] good podcast for the nerds. [14:39] yep but I am a bit behind on the podcasts [14:39] bnem: yay! [14:40] church of skirt [14:40] church of the sub-genius [14:40] lol [14:40] church of the sub-literate would be mroe apt [14:40] "Bob!" [14:40] Non-Prophets: You should get Reverend Stang on from the Church of the Subgenius. [14:40] Praise bob! [14:41] HOLY SHIT [14:41] Someone put a bob dobbs sticker on a freeway bridge not far from here [14:41] his wife would take his children? [14:41] scarlett75: :) [14:41] rudeboy: that's cool [14:42] also saw a small one on a traffic signal control box in Hollywood. That dude gets around [14:42] Nobody in the UK knows about J R Bob Dobbs, except me. I'm going to be the only Brit on the saucers when 1998 finally comes [14:42] how would that go over in court? "Your honor... he's planning to teach my kids science and rationality. Please...no overnight visits?" [14:42] heh! [14:42] That's not mutual respect [14:42] that's a threat [14:42] Definitely a threat. [14:42] LOL - God loves you but he'll fuck you up. [14:42] right. your gawd is an extortionist [14:42] Don't make him cut you [14:43]