Session Start: Sat Jul 28 12:08:34 2007 Session Ident: #nonprophets [12:08] * Now talking in #nonprophets [12:08] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, July 28th, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [12:08] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Jul 14 16:00:36 [12:08] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [12:09] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [12:09] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [12:17] Hello! We're early :-) [12:22] yeah, just doing some setup....actually, that's a half-lie. I'm setting up...then playing a little Guitar Hero..then setting up...then playing... :) [12:23] Btw, if you're short on news, I have a dutch news item just came in today [12:23] * Owner has joined #nonprophets [12:23] And I'm playing Lord of the rings Online in the meantime :-) [12:23] * Owner is now known as H3lix [12:45] As I'm mostly AFK...if folks ask: The stream isn't up yet, and I'll probably announce when I put it up. It'll probably go up about 20 minutes early (as usual) just to test audio levels and whatnot. [12:46] Great :-) [13:07] * biff_m has joined #nonprophets [13:07] * biff_m is now known as bugsoup [13:30] * ChristOnIce has joined #nonprophets [13:40] * andreasj has joined #nonprophets [13:40] * andreasj has quit IRC (andreasj) [13:41] * Reviis has joined #nonprophets [13:43] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:43] it's gettin near the hour...! [13:44] got me a bottle of Alaskan amber and some chips... [13:44] I've got a feed, no sound yet though [13:45] yeah, mine's streaming but no audio [13:45] Should be audio now [13:45] but for the 90 second delay... [13:46] there it is [13:46] got it :-) [13:47] is this stereo? [13:48] It'll probably show up as stereo, but I think it's actually mono. I've been making lots of tweaks [13:48] * zippyapparition has joined #nonprophets [13:48] you'll be able to tell in a minute [13:49] I just panned the music fully left and fully right [13:49] My system here feeds through a stereo system. IT sounds .... ahhhh okay [13:49] The issue isn't really whether or not its stereo...the feed is just ultra-low quality. [13:50] I get it [13:50] which is why I'm recording a higher quality copy - directly from the mixer, and that's what will be posted [13:50] Bandwidth issues [13:50] * rudeboy rips open a bag of sour cream and onion chips [13:50] don't no one stand behind me for the next few hours... [13:51] Are you trying to say that there's going to be an asshole talking shit about you behind your back? [13:51] lol [13:51] isn't thereusually?? [13:52] ok it's stereo...but only in the final mix. [13:52] The mics are mono, the phoneline is mono and the music is stereo..but mixed as another mono channel. [13:53] i hear the difference now. I know this song enough [13:53] hey, it does a nice job [13:55] So, I take it you guys aren't having the flooding problems like further south...?? [13:56] It's raining... a ridiculous ammount. Not quite flooding here, though [13:56] * JohnEastTX has joined #nonprophets [13:56] hey all [13:56] Yet barely a thousand miles west we're having the worst drought on record [13:57] ain't mother nature a muther? [13:58] get the impression that Billy Joel has issues? [13:59] Yeah, but ole Billy hasn't been in the top 100 in a while though [14:00] do you have dead air? [14:00] most of the air around here is alive [14:00] heh...do you hear any broadcast? [14:00] unless i fart, then it does kill some of the organisms [14:00] oh, you mean the feed? [14:00] yeah, they went silent [14:01] thanks [14:01] they'll be back in a pinch of time [14:01] * NiteBeast has joined #nonprophets [14:02] welcome to the jungle [14:02] Ok...starting slightly late, but soon [14:02] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:02] we're on pins and needles of anticipation [14:02] ouch ouch ouch [14:02] damn needles [14:04] Name that tune in 3 notes... [14:04] uh, not enough beats [14:04] Not enough Beets by the Oral Vegetarians [14:04] * AiW has joined #nonprophets [14:05] dennis is such a tease [14:05] Punk band, used to play all the vegan houses out here [14:05] Starting... [14:05] startling [14:06] shoeshine on my loafers, makes me happy.... [14:06] oh wait, that's not the damn lyrics [14:06] Here we go... [14:06] * tlivernois1 has joined #nonprophets [14:08] you can't prove it either, its subjective [14:08] i don;t believe you're non prophets either, except for the somewhat significant proof that I'm receiving right now [14:08] Battlestar galactica? Jeeez! [14:08] stalinist? [14:08] LOL [14:08] mad at the easter bunny too [14:09] the shit thowing chat room [14:09] DUCK! [14:09] INCOMING [14:09] *splatch!* [14:09] * Aerik has joined #nonprophets [14:09] great opening Den den [14:09] Shit, I was writing a post and almost forgot ! [14:09] HI EVERYBODY [14:09] hello [14:09] guten aben [14:09] hola [14:09] si' [14:10] Spingtime for Hitler and George Bush... [14:10] If you listen to yesterday's Point of Inquiry, DJ Grothe has once again made a strawman of strong atheists, saying they are completely equivocating the "atheist movement" with the violent persecution of blacks and gays in the civil rights movement, approximately 11 minutes in. [14:10] I'm finishing up making some links for an angry blog post about it right now. [14:11] whoi is this DJ? and where does it get its facts? [14:11] Aerik - make it a good rant! [14:11] "atheist movement"? [14:11] The only movement I've had today is... well, never mind [14:12] *Jeff Dee might make a comeback for that occasion?* [14:12] * Aerik has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:12] * Aerik has joined #nonprophets [14:12] son of a bitch program froze [14:13] * undeadair has joined #nonprophets [14:13] pop ups are annoying and I usually ignore them [14:13] I figured most people do, which is why it's so mysterious they make so much money with it. [14:14] Go Goya [14:15] Good science fiction and fantasy -- a lot of crap out there too [14:15] WHo was it, THeodore Sturgeon who said 90 percent of everything is crap? [14:16] god has low self esteem, too [14:16] Harlan Ellison "Deathbird" [14:16] he need sus to love him [14:16] What gets me is that the devil is the most superfluous character in the Bible since it's pretty clear God himself is responsible for just about everything. [14:16] * rostaman has joined #nonprophets [14:16] good cop, bad cop [14:16] therefore gawd is irresponsible and shound be cast out of the universe [14:16] did the show just start, I just now connected [14:16] yeah, show is running [14:16] ? in there somewhere [14:17] yeah, it's just started [14:17] cool [14:17] heh [14:17] dial tone [14:17] sweet sweet dial tone [14:17] cute lil dial tone :P [14:17] call Dawkins! [14:17] Make a prank call on a relative! [14:17] prank Phelps! [14:17] heh [14:18] prank Bob Larson [14:18] I can daw flies [14:19] draw [14:20] rudeboy to answer your question earlier, "DJ Grothe" is the host of the Point of Inquiry podcast. [14:20] ah [14:20] that's a good podcast [14:20] and he didn't really get his facts from anywhere. He pulled that strawman totally out of his ass. [14:20] He must be suffering from constipation [14:21] or perhaps he needed more room in there.... [14:21] wow, Larson, haven't heard him in a while...if anybody has a good internet radio URL that carries that freak... [14:21] don't forget PMomma's new podcast [14:21] Oh yeah. I listened to scarlett75's podcast and plugged it too [14:22] rostaman - I think Larson just has the webpage and works his mailing list and does his travelling show in the sticks. [14:22] stick people like cons like Larson [14:23] ok, ty John [14:23] sex [14:23] sex [14:24] sunshing on my shoulders makes me happy [14:24] sunshine [14:25] * anko has joined #nonprophets [14:26] soft sand on the shoulders gets my car stuck .... [14:26] some think Joe Smith plagarized much of Book of Mormon from what a local preacher had written earlier [14:27] * gmp has joined #nonprophets [14:28] Ah, Doctor Who... [14:28] no Mormons are broke or depressed? [14:28] Well, no True Mormons, anyway... [14:28] I've driven through Utah [14:29] Plenty of broke and depressed people [14:29] the "Magic Underwear" for the men is a riot. [14:29] Mormon men I mean [14:29] magic underwear? [14:29] What? It makes that annoying bulge disappear? what? [14:29] well, that's my term, but they never take off this sorta loincloth [14:30] heh [14:30] they shower with it [14:30] It's just so bizarre [14:30] Next Romney press conference, someone should ask if he is wearing Magic Underwear (Sacred Garments, they call them) [14:30] yep, thought about Romney being asked that [14:30] Ask him how it got magical? Isn't that like, anti-gawd? [14:31] Hey, Gawd, Pimp my BVDs [14:31] Mormon God is cool with magical stuff [14:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment [14:31] I contemplated my navel but all I got was a small waddie of lint for the effort... [14:32] http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt.html [14:33] prank Fred Phelps with that [14:34] I assume most people here have already read this or know of it... [14:34] http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/240707_bush_fascist.html [14:34] Jeeeezuziz [14:34] his team [14:35] lol [14:35] jeeeezuz, your love is.... oh, jeeepers... [14:36] that does it. Jeepers is gay! [14:36] sounds like the South Park episode where Cartman 'wrote' Christian songs [14:36] you had me at "secret place" [14:36] * rudeboy rubbs his secret place [14:36] home schoolers [14:37] mmm secret place [14:37] PHD in what? [14:38] How is a home schooler supposed to learn advanced math is the parents never did? How can they be so sure the kids are as smart as they say? You need tutors! [14:38] yep, Aerik, you're right on [14:39] I work with a young lady who uses her "IO was home schooled" like a club [14:39] Not to mention that if, say, your kid takes tests and you like, mail them somewhere else to be graded or something, it still remains that during the test, the home school student is still in a very informal atmosphere; No oversight = no trustworthy data on cheating and stuff. [14:40] the question is, have public schools become just as unreliable in this sense, with the increasing student:teacher ratio? Oy vey. [14:41] * gmp has quit IRC (Goodbye) [14:41] * gmp has joined #nonprophets [14:41] wb [14:47] home schoolers choose to use the upper potential for homeschooling instead of stress the most common actual results [14:49] community colleges are high schools with ashtrays [14:49] I'm about to go back to one [14:50] * wolfrock has joined #nonprophets [14:50] hope it's not as easy as last semester [14:50] One of the problems is that most of the teachers are adjunct faculty - without graders or teaching assistants [14:50] to keep their jobsm they need good evaluations from their students [14:51] http://www.hibernation9.com/blog/homeschooling_at_its_best/ -- funny coincidence, I just found this link at reddit [14:51] so why make life hard and give yourself tons of papers to grade and lose your job because of pissed off students [14:52] one Democrat candidate mentioned a $40k/yr minimum wage for public school teachers...maybe Bill Richardson...I liked that plan [14:52] interesting [14:52] the community college I'm going to is right next to a university [14:52] dammit, I said "Democrat" like the Repugs are programming everybody to do! [14:52] The 40k is unconstitutional [14:53] doubt that, "Christ" [14:53] The federal government does not have the authority to set pay for educators [14:53] That is a matter for the states [14:53] okay [14:54] But it sounds good for a campaign [14:54] good info...I'll have to look into Bill's plan...if he intended to push for an amendment [14:57] I've heard that one. [14:57] "You just say you're atheist because you want to avoid going to hell for your [name allegedly sinful behavior here]" -- can apply to anything [14:57] * davefromomaha has joined #nonprophets [14:57] i know a few people who are gay...they are some of the most religious people i know [14:58] now you are confusing gays with queers. : ) [14:59] FYI for any Skype folks: the "Atheism" Skypecast (audio) discussion room has the top number of listeners right now.. 1st time to see that (I used to host my own) [14:59] masturbate in Swedish = onanera [14:59] Great sign! [14:59] -era is kind of like the -ize in trivialize [15:00] Cuss on, Matt! :D [15:01] Drop that F bomb! [15:01] Woooo! [15:01] shit piss cocksucker motherfucker.... [15:01] Snatch that Pussy and put her in a Box! [15:01] yep [15:01] i cna't remeber the rest [15:01] tits [15:01] cunt fuck [15:01] certain words [15:02] I've seen Carlin do a much longer list than the 7 [15:02] he's added a few [15:02] In one performance he has a scroll and he rails off more than a hundred racial slurs [15:02] teats on an early-morning farm show [15:03] He altered the bit here and there in the 80s [15:04] * anko has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071812]) [15:05] So-called curse words are merely modifiers except when used as exclamations [15:05] Or verbs [15:05] penn and teller's bullshit has a great episode on profanity [15:05] THis language is in everyday use, especially on movie sets [15:05] "god's name isn't damnit" [15:06] er, god's last name* [15:06] "Hey, will you please fucking act?!" "Hey, Move that fucking light, JOe!" [15:08] "fuck those fucking fuckers, fuckhead" [15:08] fucking "a" [15:09] It's "aye" [15:09] Dick fucking cheney [15:09] and if you don't know cheney, you don't know Dick [15:10] Yeah, he's the cock of the walk [15:10] well, we say "a" like "weigh" in Texas [15:10] The real fucking president [15:10] fuckin-a [15:10] but that's so 70s ;) [15:11] I've never heard it like "aye," like "fuckin-aye, captain" [15:11] nor I [15:11] George Carlin did this too. [15:11] that would be funny in a seafaring film [15:11] That's the idea behind it. Aye is an affirmation [15:11] "It doesn't make sense to me. It's legal to give somebody an orgasm, and it's legal to sell them something. But you can't sell them an orgasm. What's with that?" [15:12] Fucking "a" is not [15:12] the "a" is short for "ace," as in it's awesome, [15:12] good point, Christ....contemplating "A" at this time...... [15:12] No, it isn't [15:12] oh, ty A [15:13] 3things you'll never hear- "hand me that piano". "do what you want with the girl, but leave me alone." [15:13] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fucking+a [15:13] heh, look whose pic is on that page! [15:13] the worst that's ever happened is a few days ago, 3 moron teens spraypainted "long live atheism" above a church front door. That's the worst atheists have ever, ever done. [15:14] you're citing urban dictionary? a website who's very name implies that if it's dirty it's "urban" ? lame. [15:14] whomever said 'fucking awesome' wins! [15:14] 3aerik- haven't i seen you in reggie's room??? [15:14] Sorry, Dave. Urban dictionary isn't exactly a pillar of integrity and accuracy [15:14] ;-) [15:15] I was there the other night after the show, dave [15:15] funny, Aerik, your lame dict. makes you a winner! :-) [15:15] ok, Christ, looking far & wide [15:16] oh, HA urbandict agrees with me. lol [15:18] answer the phone [15:18] its god [15:18] ! [15:18] The official guess is that it comes from the positive phrase �A-number-one.� This makes sense for the �wonderful� usage, but not for the original �correct� usage. It draws textual support from 1970s war memoirs [15:18] lol [15:18] Who called? :p [15:18] great sound! [15:18] the call is working fine [15:18] what's the #? [15:18] Phone sounded good? [15:18] yes [15:18] Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. :) [15:19] lol [15:19] Great, guys! [15:19] oh well then I still win, because I defined it as it *is* used, not as it *would* be used. The active always beats the passive. [15:19] sounded really good on this end [15:19] nice imitation matt [15:19] as good as any radio show [15:19] Robes Pierre? [15:19] vote->Aerik\ [15:19] Guillotine it's a slice of life..... [15:20] lol [15:20] slice of death [15:20] you should make that a gum commercial rudeboy [15:20] Ought to give Sam some millions in libel damages [15:20] heh [15:20] sorry gang, gotta leave the room early... [15:20] see ya all in two weeks [15:20] The fool says in his heart there is no god [15:21] The wise man shouts it to the rafters [15:21] * rudeboy has left #nonprophets [15:21] I remember that debate [15:21] yeah the rational response guillotined ray comfort [15:21] for not being rational enough [15:21] after this show ends, y'all get yer headsets and join the Atheism discussion on Skypecast right now: https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/ongoing#join [15:22] and we can plug the NPs [15:22] * davefromomaha has left #nonprophets [15:22] wouldn't be able to really [15:22] k [15:22] my mic is a pair of headphones [15:22] :( [15:22] I have a real headset coming in the mail in about a week [15:23] or a month [15:23] I used to host "The Atheism Church" from Germany.. this spring [15:23] ok [15:23] Proof that urban dictionary sucks: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rational+response+squad [15:23] Their *real* fears are really grounded. Their asses get kicked in all debates [15:23] I guess it's 'grain of salt' at the urban dict, huh [15:24] * rostaman has quit IRC (rostaman) [15:24] Oh, common, like the makers of those adds really have those fears [15:26] * Dave63_2 has joined #nonprophets [15:26] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [15:26] * rostaman has joined #nonprophets [15:27] amen [15:27] be sure to click on "On Now" link or whatever when on Skypecast main page to see Atheist room [15:30] australia doens't exist...now...now...now [15:31] snakes? [15:31] matt worships satan! [15:31] Or self-promotion and sensationalism in the case of Irwin [15:33] fucking awsome [15:33] *awesome [15:34] stephen fry sounds pompous to me [15:35] Jon Edwards [15:35] Jon Stewart? [15:35] john edward [15:35] jon stewart? [15:35] John Edward! [15:35] 4 Jon Edwards, not Jon Stewart! [15:35] jon stowart is awesome! [15:35] stewart! [15:35] * wolfrock has quit IRC (Client exited) [15:35] Jon Stewart is the Daily Show host, genius [15:36] aaarg [15:36] non-prophets it's jon edwards, not jon stewart [15:36] Repeating it isn't going to help Aerik [15:36] maybe if we saying 20 more times [15:36] say it* [15:36] They know, it was a mild slip, its over and done with [15:37] Oh yes, let's put up with accidentally smearing the wrong people just because it happened quickly... [15:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYpZ-bxwri8 [15:37] Smearing my ass. Nobody is confused [15:38] nobody *here* is confused [15:38] Just because a lie is obvious doesn't make it any less of a lie, even if it happened accidentally [15:39] And the idiot who is confused should be listening to Pat Robertson, not NP [15:39] Being an accident prevents it from being a lie, genius. It would be called a mistake [15:39] misinformation then. [15:40] what's the point of arguing over this? [15:40] Entertainment [15:41] and he may have gotten shot by his own men [15:41] perhaps by good god fearing christians? [15:42] * gmp has quit IRC (gmp) [15:44] * rostaman has quit IRC (rostaman) [15:46] Yes they will be harassed personally. [15:47] Every car I've ever seen living in Kansas that has a darwin fish has a sign of vandalism [15:47] divisive [15:49] Non-Prophets pass this link to that letter-writer from topeka http://atheists.meetup.com/140/?gj=sj2 the kansas city atheists meetup group [15:50] http://humanism.meetup.com/37/?gj=sj2 kansas city humanist meetup group [15:50] is that kc, missouri or kansas (or are they close enough not to matter) [15:51] the difference betweek KCK and KCMO: 20 miles [15:51] but both are KCMO [15:52] i wan't sure, thanks [15:53] I'm actually signing up right now I've never bothered before [15:53] I'm surprised to see the atheist group has 130 members. [15:54] that was a year ago [15:56] * Reviis has quit IRC [15:56] mkay then. C y'all in 2 weeks [15:56] * Aerik has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]) [15:57] good show...call in sounded like she was in the studio [15:57] Nice [15:57] * JohnEastTX has quit IRC (JohnEastTX) [15:57] or is it a "studio" [15:57] By the way...I'm going to start holding us to 90 minutes unless it's really necessary. [15:59] see everyone in a couple weeks, bye [15:59] * bugsoup has left #nonprophets [16:00] * ChristOnIce has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]) [16:01] * suttsteve has joined #nonprophets [16:01] * zippyapparition has quit IRC (zippyapparition) [16:03] gotta remember to come here during the show.. [16:03] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, August 11th, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes. 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