Session Start: Sat Oct 06 13:25:03 2007 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:25] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:25] * ChanServ sets mode: +ntr [13:25] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, October 6th, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes. (Non-Prophets)' [13:25] * ChanServ sets mode: -ahoq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:25] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:36] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:37] what? I'm the only one here? [13:37] Say it ain't so, Jim. [13:37] So far, you're it [13:38] guess I'll just have to live with that [13:40] So, any word on that frivolous "gawd" lawsuit? I would really love to hear just how frivolous gawd has become... [13:40] given his/its non existence [13:41] * wxproof has joined #nonprophets [13:41] wb [13:46] ah! mail's here [13:46] BRB [13:47] * wwfsmd has joined #nonprophets [13:49] the audience has tripled! great ratings! [13:49] Yo Matt, or whoever is running the chat room, this is the last Non-Prophets I will get to listen to for a few months, so make it a good one damnit! [13:50] the audience has spoken [13:51] Why is this the last one? Are you abandoning technology? [13:52] heh [13:52] * bugsoup has joined #nonprophets [13:52] Going to the Middle East, can't get NP out there. I can get AE though. [13:52] think I ordered that recently [13:52] That makes no sense...you can get AE, but not NP? [13:53] that checks [13:54] * Latrodectus has joined #nonprophets [13:54] Hi peeps [13:54] * rudeboy peeps [13:54] But..... it's not the Muslims doing it... [13:55] has the show started yet? [13:55] no, but the stream is running [13:55] Not sure if I have this set up right [13:56] It's the DOD networks, they block most streaming media, including NP, (which is also blocked for being 'political and extreme'). AE for some reason slips though the cracks, but not the google video versions. [13:56] oral was reading a spy novel when gawd spoke? [13:57] or was gaed giving him oral when he .... oh, damn that's confusing [13:57] there are worse things one can be doing when god speaks to you [13:57] so it would seem [13:57] like drinking [13:57] sniffing glue [13:57] Wait, you're telling me that the Department of Defense censors us? [13:57] Too much is not enough -- Bily Idol [13:57] Billy [13:58] NP is extreme? O.o [13:58] arthritis of the keyboard [13:58] How can it be? [13:58] Do they let you watch the 700 club? [13:58] Fuck it, I'm going to rail on the DoD today [13:58] lol [13:58] they'll send blackwater to your studio [13:59] heh [13:59] "You boys are in a heap of trouble" [14:00] DOD censores alot, some for technical reasons (conserving bandwith, hince streaming media and audio/video files), some for 'moral' reasons (porn, extremist sites), and some for productivity reasons (BBS, chat rooms, game sites), etc... [14:01] Understood, but can you watch The 700 Club? [14:01] * bugsoup has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:01] What the do however, as far as I can tell, is buy off the shelf software which starts out blocking everything (including actual DOD sites for being 'military'). Needless to say that got fixed, and other sites are taken off the list as people complain. [14:02] Why the hell would I watch the 700 Club? [14:02] * ShawnMilo has joined #nonprophets [14:02] * donnyton has joined #nonprophets [14:02] sp it's a popularity contest based on who bitches the most? [14:02] You should talk to your chaplain, and claim that freedom of religion must be fair and evenly distributed...so if anyone can watch religious programming, you should be able to get our podcasts. :) [14:03] Hi everybody. [14:03] "Hey, take that there atheist show off, I'm a Xtian and it pisses me off" [14:03] Hi Matt. It's my first time listening live. I'm usually away from home on Saturdays. [14:03] Hiya Shawn...glad to see you could make it [14:03] Hi Shawn, I'm new too [14:03] The feed is silent right now, right? [14:03] Yes [14:03] Hi Latrodectus. [14:04] We're about to start...and I probably won't be in chat much, but I'll try [14:04] * biff_m has joined #nonprophets [14:04] I've listened to probably 70+ hours of past episodes. This is just my first time in the IRC. [14:04] welcome [14:04] Yeah same here, I've just downloaded past episodes before [14:04] Thanks. [14:05] You may all enjoy my articles: MiloCast.com [14:05] It's hard to watch anything, steraming media is banned pretty tight so getting NP live is not going to happen. It's the downloading after the show that's blocked for being political, while the NP site itself is available, you just can't download the files. [14:05] Test! [14:05] It's weird [14:05] so this is what goes on before the show... [14:05] here we go [14:05] w00t! [14:06] * rudeboy ponders a cold bottle of the amber fluid [14:06] * zippyapparition has joined #nonprophets [14:06] wxproof, can you get around the block with a proxy? [14:06] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [14:06] NJ! [14:06] rudeboy! [14:07] proxy's are blocked, and trying to end around like that is illegal [14:07] hey man... [14:07] Note that there's anything wrong with that! [14:07] heh [14:07] October? OCTOBERFEST! [14:07] BEER! BEER! BEER! [14:07] Lol, he was a bully before...now he's overly submissive [14:07] As long as I get AE (which I like better), I'm fine. [14:08] agnostic? [14:08] Oh...damn [14:08] practiced stutterer [14:08] * biff_m is now known as bugsoup [14:08] "What is that bug doing in your soup?" [14:09] "The backstroke." [14:09] haha [14:09] it's denying the existence of your god [14:09] What's the last thing to go through a bug's mind when it hits the windshield? [14:09] It's ass [14:09] lol [14:09] My router died a few days ago. I bought a new one, and set up my SSID as "thereisnogod." [14:09] cursing its insect gawd as it s[plats [14:10] * arensb has joined #nonprophets [14:10] "Mine gawd is the greatest insect gawd.... SPLAT! [14:10] Stinking Mormons! [14:10] CURSE THE MORMONS! [14:10] Fuck the Mormons. [14:11] Glass, stornger that gawds [14:11] i actually got to visit the mormon temple in utah once [14:11] holy underwear [14:11] can;t they darn those holes? [14:11] holy or holely? [14:11] consiracy [14:11] yeah [14:11] I have holely underwear [14:11] I had a couple mormon missionaries come up to me and try to convert me when I was getting groceries a couple months ago. I think I turned one of them atheist by half an hour later. [14:11] conspiracy [14:12] heh. guess their belief isn't so string [14:12] or they pissed their holy underwear [14:12] You guys ought to go to the Mormon conference and crash the party. [14:12] I just destroyed every argument they made. It was awesome. (they were't good debaters, so it wasn't hard) [14:13] heh. poke fun at mormons [14:13] is that like whack a mole? [14:13] i find jehovah's witnesses much more fun to poke fun at [14:13] * aANKOo has joined #nonprophets [14:13] I just close the door on them [14:14] the vending machine theory of belief [14:14] I lived with a jehovah witness family for a while. They kicked me out when their 7 year old daughter became an atheist (thanks to me, though I didn't do it on purpose) [14:14] which one's don't celebrate birthdays [14:14] i've heard a christian claim that prayer frees hostages in iraq [14:14] ones [14:14] when you put the money in, a monkeyfaced preacher smiles [14:14] bless you, no donut [14:14] more money please [14:15] all hostages or just some hostages [14:15] one specific hostage incident [14:15] so these people praying knew they could help, but did nothing for the remaining hostages around the world [14:16] jerk off, close enough to asshat [14:16] We don't need SERE when we have prayer [14:16] DRINK! [14:16] how loving [14:16] lol @ god's lawsuit [14:17] he's got deep pockets for sure [14:17] does gawd wear holy underwear? [14:17] and who does his laundry? [14:17] No, god's a nudist [14:17] does gawd get skidmarks in his briefs? [14:17] god doesn't need underwear [14:17] can god soil his laundry so badly that not even he can clean it [14:17] yeah [14:17] LOL! [14:18] god is all good so he repels dirtiness [14:18] "I am not cleaning up my own shit" -- Gawd [14:18] 'holy shit' to be accurate [14:18] well, yeah [14:18] cleaning up gawd's shit is what all those theists are for, they worship him always [14:19] apologists for gawd's shit? [14:19] Why would Dawkins enter a "debate" that was set up like that? [14:19] do they also apologize for his farts? [14:19] these questions keep me up nights [14:19] no, they just blame Satan like we blame the dog [14:19] heh [14:20] only if by farts you mean hurricanes or tornadoes [14:20] well, the tunguska event was probably Gawd igniting one of his larger farts... [14:20] can't he do that in one of heaven's bathrooms where it won't kill one of us? [14:20] haha tunguska [14:21] According to family guy, the big bang was god lighting a fart [14:21] I thought we worshipped time. Or is it science? [14:21] Perhaps the fire of Hell is like the match in the bathroom to hide the smell [14:21] well, does a heavenly bathroom have all the usual hardware? [14:21] hot fan, bidet [14:21] porno by the toilet? [14:22] yeah, what kid of porn does Gawd read? [14:22] missionary [14:22] nuns [14:22] Every kind of pr0n. He's omniscient, you know. [14:22] catholic priests [14:22] nice slip rudeboy [14:22] I didn;t wear a slip today [14:22] i don't think those pedophile priests should be prosecuted [14:22] after all, they provide God's sexual entertainment [14:22] gawd is a pedophile [14:23] God watches you jack off, and even invites your dead grandmother to join him in doing so [14:23] Gawd, the proto-pedo [14:23] "let the little children come to me" [14:23] LOL [14:23] "I can see your kid's foreskin! slice it off so i may have a better view!" [14:23] my dead grandmother would give gawd a hotfoot [14:23] "...and give me an hour" [14:25] chat test, one two three, anyone there? [14:25] still here [14:25] Hi, wxproof. [14:25] here [14:25] it's a fatwah, it's mean to be confusing and spinnable [14:25] whew, I thought the rapture happened for a thile there [14:25] I heard a baby give a fat wah recently [14:25] i was just listening to the next story [14:25] you guys get quiet and I get nervous, I'm not on 'the list' you know [14:25] * rudeboy ponders which joke stack to put that on on [14:26] stonehinge? for a stone door? [14:26] how is bluetooth different from cell technology [14:26] what happens if a stone becomes unhinged? [14:26] On their tax form, do they write "Occupation: Nun"? [14:26] not literally, but as the muslims see it [14:27] is that like my mailman going postal? [14:27] possessed by a virgin? [14:27] Hahaha!! [14:27] silly Catholics [14:27] begone thou wombless shebeast [14:27] posessed by a virgin...that's one of my favorite fantasies! >.< [14:27] and Madona's [14:28] army of mary? [14:28] JEEEEZ! [14:28] Mary assembled an army? Damn...PMS [14:29] Christmas is a time for feeliung Mary. HEY, MARY! [14:29] * Andrew has joined #nonprophets [14:30] excommunicated? [14:30] does that still have any meaning? [14:30] Just goes to show you how crazy 80 years of celibacy will make you... [14:30] I'd believe I was the Virgin Mary after that long myself... [14:30] At first I thought I heard 'executed'.... did a double take on that one [14:30] heh [14:30] oh, so THEY are deluded? [14:30] Nuns? Deluded? Nooooo!!! [14:30] the deluded calling the deluded deluded [14:30] lol, irony indeed [14:31] that isn;t irony, that's stupid! [14:31] that is G. W. Bush mentality [14:31] oh no, phone >.< [14:31] "Is the children learning?" [14:31] "Is our children learning?" and Phuck the fone. The Non-Prophets are on. [14:32] haha [14:32] screw it...I'll check my messages later [14:32] "Our childrens can learn" [14:32] Yeah that's what I decided Shawn [14:32] must one copulate with a phone to use it? [14:32] It's my friend inviting me over for supper (she told me she would let me know when to come over) [14:32] Nuns in fistfights? [14:32] silly Italians [14:32] Not necessarily. But the vibrate feature probably makes it tempting. [14:32] lol [14:33] * Andrew has quit IRC (Andrew) [14:33] She's a christian...but she's good at keeping it to herself so it doesn't really bother me. [14:33] Was oil involved in this nun fight [14:33] A Christian chick inviting you over for food? You have a great chance of getting some. [14:33] Her son is an atheist (also a friend of mine) and she doesn't push christianity on him, so it's cool. [14:33] lol Shawn she has a bf [14:33] a nun in a blender [14:34] nun's in a fistfight [14:34] and she's over twice my age [14:34] blender haha [14:34] No apostrophe in nuns. [14:34] i know, i keep doing that [14:34] Although...I don't think age is really relevant. [14:34] unless is meant "nun is in a fistfight" [14:34] Did Jeeezuz leave any property behind when he died? Who was the next of kin? [14:35] Nuns get laid! The title of the next Twisted Sister album [14:35] what a loss for the world [14:35] * Dust_ has joined #nonprophets [14:36] lol [14:36] THE FISTING NUNS [14:36] ewww! [14:36] * wxproof took a dump, ahhh thats better [14:36] that was definitely .... [14:36] nuns, the fun never ends with these people [14:36] the long arm of GAwd! [14:36] >.< [14:37] lol [14:37] point of order! [14:37] It was probably Ian Fleming's Octopussy [14:38] Haggard, Hovind, and now another fundie's about to go down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [14:38] * Dust_ is now known as Dust [14:38] shocked? [14:38] please God, let there be a gay sex scandal [14:38] lol [14:38] a fine example of Xtian grace [14:39] fire a qualified person for an unqualified, cheaper, person [14:39] religions need unions [14:40] Matt, I'll let you can ride in my jet [14:40] a stable of horses? oh, right, Robertson has thoroughbreds that race at tracks that have BETTING! [14:40] guess that's okay [14:42] Hey ACA guys, if the university goes bankrupt due to the scandall, you guys can by the property and turn it into your new headquarters building [14:42] Was the texting sexual, or is that just being assumed? [14:42] texting is ALWAYS sexual [14:43] Well I don't text...but I do have underage friends on my MSN [14:43] ...and it's not sexual [14:43] Oral Roberts [14:43] perhaps she puts the phone on vibrate mode, puts in a certain place, and then has the guys text her [14:43] DRINK [14:43] AGAIN [14:44] drunk again [14:44] lol I saw a commercial like that wxproof [14:44] Drinking games are for morons. [14:44] I guess that goes without saying, though... [14:44] I only have water. Doesn't have much of a bite :-( [14:45] * andrew has joined #nonprophets [14:45] nooo [14:45] Graham was equally disturbing [14:46] Graham had early access to the politicla and high powered people long before the Falwalls and Robertsons [14:46] Chill, ShawnMilo. [14:46] much more so [14:46] there was that Time issue devoted to Graham in the White House [14:46] I'm perfectly calm. Just expressing my opinions. [14:46] So am I. Chill. [14:47] Um, wasn't it Grahamn's son who wanted to send missionaries into Iraq after the kickoff of OIF? [14:47] If you have any reasonable counter to my claim, then feel free to make it. But don't go censoring me. [14:47] that was Graham's son, not Graham [14:47] I say drinking games are for idiots. [14:47] I know, but the shit doesn't fall far from the asshole [14:47] I've heard Graham before as a Christian, he's generally reasonable enough to tolerate [14:47] Nobody is censoring you, ShawnMilo. Nobody is stopping you from speaking. I'm merely giving MY opinion, as you have. [14:48] No, you were telling me how to behave. [14:48] You weren't stating an opposing opinion -- you were telling me what to do. [14:48] Yes, I was. This is not censorship. Do you see the difference? [14:48] That's right. It's called "advice". [14:48] You can't censor me in this room unless you're a mod. I slightly misused the word censor. But it's clearly what you were trying to do -- you were telling me not to express my opinions. [14:49] guys [14:49] there's a bigger issue [14:49] the fact that what Jack means by "Chill" is probably not what Shawn thinks "chill" means? [14:49] Okay, let's explore that. [14:49] miscommunication leads to more miscommunication [14:49] I took it as telling me not to be abrasive. [14:49] and pointless debate about pointless stuff... [14:49] will you people quit your bitching, we've got Christians to make fun of. [14:50] whoa whoa whoa! [14:50] let's not discriminate [14:50] these people don't grow on trees you know [14:50] well actually [14:50] they poof out of God's breath [14:50] This entire IRC chat is pointless. Nobody is saying anything life-changing. So discussing the concept of drinking games is well within bounds, I think. [14:51] And by "pointless" I'm not putting it down. It is what it is. It's Saturday afternoon entertainment. [14:51] well, i'd say that drking games are fun [14:51] and reckless [14:51] fun + reckless = moronity [14:51] Okay, whether they're fun or not isn't the issue, though. [14:51] therefore, i'm a moron [14:51] Ha. Interesting proof. [14:51] i don't see how that's an insult, given that i'm having fun [14:52] Dawkins 5:17 "Drinking games are bloody fun" The great atheist prophet has spoken, debate over. [14:52] Argument from authority, dismissed. [14:54] drinking games are also ways to deal with grief and loss! [14:54] So is religion. Your point? [14:54] Alcohol, the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems [14:55] i would think you'd rather play a drinking game than turn to religion [14:55] False dichotomy. You lose. [14:55] Know one kills you for not drinking the same kind of beer they do [14:56] Ad hominem attack: You used "know" for "no," therefore you can't be smart enough to listen to. (joke) [14:57] I did that on purpose, to make sure you where checking and all. [14:57] were/where [14:57] so Matt, you're against Santa Claus too? (not just the concept, but the actual manifestation in culture) [14:57] I think I would teach my children critical thinking, then tell them about the toothfairy and ask them if they think she exists and how she could test for her existence. [14:57] http://milocast.com/2007/07/11/santa-claus/ [14:58] I think it's fine to have the idea of Santa, but very wrong to tell them he's real. [14:58] When I was a kid, I suspected that the tooth fairy was really just my parents, so I decided to do an experiment. When I lost a tooth, I didn't tell my parents and simply put it under my pillow. When I woke up the next morning, the tooth was still there. [14:58] Good experiment! [14:58] Wonderful experiment. Did you tell them afterwards and ask what happened? [14:58] Yes [14:58] * grrrrraeme has joined #nonprophets [14:59] My mom admitted that it was her all along. [14:59] and I was proud of myself lol [14:59] Nice. [14:59] She never did admit that the god thing was a lie though [14:59] this reminds me of the Dumb and Dumber 2 [14:59] My mom is catholic and tried to make me catholic too, but I've been an atheist since I was about 5 [14:59] Well, she gets partial credit, at least. [15:00] * bugsoup has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [15:00] I became an atheist when my mom told me that the priest wasn't god (I that's who god was) [15:00] when Jim Carrey's character's friend says "my mom's the tooth fairy. i found out." [15:00] and he's like "Wow, your mom's the tooth fairy??" [15:00] lol [15:01] is she a second generation tooth fairy by chance? [15:02] I wanted to go to public school, but my mom made me go to catholic [15:03] I resent not having a choice, so now I'm a youth rights activist [15:04] atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist atheist [15:04] I just felt like it [15:04] i think the apologetics would say [15:05] * NeutronJack says that it is. [15:05] "more Christian areas attract infidels who commit the crimes" [15:05] "because they like to persecute us" [15:05] It's like Batman attracts the Joker and the Penguin? [15:05] lol donny [15:05] no, they put their fingers in their ears and go 'LAH LAH LAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU, LAH LAH LAH" [15:06] See you all later. If you want to read my articles please check out MiloCast.com. Adios. [15:06] * ShawnMilo has quit IRC (ShawnMilo) [15:06] So long! Chill! [15:06] Or they'd say that the people who commit crimes aren't TRUE christians, and shouldn't be counted [15:07] Only the Mormons are the true Christians [15:07] Mormons, yes, that was the correct answer [15:07] So, I've been busy with the show...was there a problem in here? [15:07] No, the pope said only catholics are true christians [15:07] it's gotten bad enough that "agnostic" is almost positive [15:07] Jesus came back, we kicked his ass and sent him running back to heaven. Situation under control [15:08] of course, fred phelps said only the westburrow baptist church members are true christians. [15:08] "Religious leader says HIS religion is the only true faith. Film at eleven." [15:08] and none of the WBC members are catholic...so I guess there are no true christians. [15:09] It's like colored/negro/black/afro-american/african-american. We can run from term to term, and in ten years, we'll detest *that* term. Why bother? [15:10] At least we have Big Foot on film, can't say the same for Jesus [15:10] --> the passion of the Christ [15:11] you abigfootist and your lies [15:11] True wxproof...but we do have mary on a cheeze sadwitch [15:11] * andrew has quit IRC (andrew) [15:11] I have a two month old tuna sandwhich that looks harry just like bigfoot [15:13] lol @ chruch of fsm getting threatening letters. What happened to religious tolerance? [15:13] not true christians [15:15] haha gay weather control [15:15] Turn, ye storms! The power of gayness compels you! [15:15] that's gay [15:15] operation 'get behind the darkies' [15:16] i'm off [15:16] * donnyton has quit IRC (donnyton) [15:17] I saw the tourettes south park episode [15:18] rapture check, everyone still there? [15:18] * NeutronJack says "chill" :-) [15:18] * donnyton has joined #nonprophets [15:19] * Latrodectus waves as he ascends into heaven [15:21] * Dust has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]) [15:22] this sucks, somebody say something hethenly [15:22] gawd shit [15:22] oh, sorry, that wasn't life changing [15:23] Everyone should be proud to know that I found Jesus yesterday, he was hiding behind my couch this whole time. [15:23] looking for loose change in the cushions? [15:23] Jesus saves--in the couch cushions! [15:24] it [15:24] it's pronounced [15:24] I guess I don't mind his being back there this whole time, but what's up with all the kleenix piles and lotion bottles back there also? [15:24] "Dawny Tawn" [15:24] Jeebus was getting busy? [15:25] I don't know, I only found one porno mag back there and it had Ron Jeremey on the front cover. [15:25] oh, the porn bigfoot? [15:26] yes actually, the plot thickens [15:26] He swelleth with pridith? [15:28] * Latrodectus hasn't molested children [15:29] Jesus was communist... [15:29] "sell all your stuff & give to the poor" [15:29] his robe was the property of the state? [15:29] He had long hair and didn't wear shoes [15:29] OId Testament god was supercapitalist [15:29] did that include the fleas in the robe? or the lice in his heair? [15:30] "sacrifice to me and i will increase your sheep tenfold [15:30] he increased the sheep? typical [15:30] pulling the wool over his people's eyes [15:30] And do you think that the billboard would remain vandalism-free? [15:31] If it's high enough off the ground [15:31] line it with electrified wire [15:31] how about atheist skywriting? [15:32] By Oral Robert's university!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:32] but abandoned churches do exist [15:32] It's going under [15:32] so someone is holding the property [15:34] w00t, let the fucker rot in prison. [15:34] i heard about this somewhere... [15:34] their first defense was [15:35] "he just performed the MARRIAGE ceremony. he had no idea they were having SEX!" [15:35] This isn't religious persecution, this is a matter of human rights. [15:36] that's horrible [15:37] yeah, no child left behind -- another fine example of the GWBUsh legacy [15:37] I hope these asshats get to toss some salad at the Federal Pound Me in the Ass prison [15:38] ah, out of time [15:38] that went quick [15:38] back in two weeks everyone [15:38] I'll be back maybe in March. [15:38] be safe over there [15:38] Oh.. [15:38] Allah will look over me [15:38] * rudeboy has left #nonprophets [15:38] good show guys [15:38] If you get a CD player, you could have someone burn you CDs :) [15:39] Good luck with that, wxproof. [15:39] * wwfsmd has quit IRC (Client exited) [15:39] Good show, NP! [15:39] * NeutronJack has quit IRC [15:39] I just download all the missed episodes when I return. [15:39] I'm officially on vacation...see you all in two weeks! Thanks all [15:39] Has anyone ever called the AE live from Iraq? [15:39] how can they? [15:39] unless you're in austin you don't see the phone no. [15:39] DSN connection, or Irridium phone [15:40] It'd be pretty late :) [15:40] E-mail me when you're over there and we'll see what we can do [15:40] * donnyton has quit IRC (donnyton) [15:40] * grrrrraeme has quit IRC (grrrrraeme) [15:40] I wouldn't have much to say, besides 'this place is hot and it sucks!' [15:40] lol [15:40] see you guys [15:40] Hasta [15:40] * wxproof has quit IRC (wxproof) [15:41] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Oct 06 15:41:00 2007