Session Start: Sat Mar 10 13:38:49 2007 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:38] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:38] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, March 10th, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [13:38] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Feb 24 17:29:17 [13:38] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:38] about time [13:39] About time? [13:39] Sup Matt... is it just you and Denis? [13:39] we were about to hijack the stream and do our own show [13:39] Yes... :( [13:39] Yikes [13:39] We'll be ok [13:39] Well I have good news... my next class is FIVE weeks away [13:39] So I can get back on schedule with doing the shows. [13:39] drink a lot. Keeps the energy up for the entire show [13:40] The biggest problem I think we'll have is that it's going to be hard to keep up with the chat room, as I'll have to do more than normal on the show [13:40] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [13:40] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [13:40] do your best. we know the situation [13:40] hm. and speaking of drinking [13:40] Also, there's been another complaint about sound levels...but I'm not hearing the problem and haven't heard other complaints [13:41] * rudeboy makes a mad dash for the fridge and a cold beer [13:41] I tried making some minor adjustments and levels should be smoother as there's only 2 of us to worry about [13:41] Your sound last week was fine [13:41] at least on my system [13:41] One of these days, maybe we should get the ACA to invest in miked headsets for everyone [13:41] brb [13:41] I've often wished I could hear how I sound relative to others [13:41] I'm going to grab Joe R. and go to Fry's...buy a new soundboard and a couple of mic's [13:41] and headsets [13:42] this show has spent no money - we're going to change that a bit [13:42] Sweet, it's about time. [13:43] As the former producer, it's my fault that we never spent much [13:43] It's because I'm a Jew :) [13:43] Well, not spending much is a good thing... and lol @the jew :) [13:43] I guess current producer... former techie though [13:43] Russell is officially on chat room duty! [13:43] Although again, I'm not sure what that title really means [13:43] No I'm not, I'm supposed to be listening to this lecture [13:43] about scheduling for critical instants in priority queues. [13:44] and then a test at 2:45 [13:44] It's really easy: The most critical has priority...unless you can service several lower priority items in less time [13:44] That'll be $225, please [13:45] I'll get it to you Thursday. [13:45] damn, and I need money too [13:45] * rudeboy pops the top off of a dreary Corona [13:45] asshat! [13:45] yeah [13:45] hey, it was free [13:46] It was: "Ok, so I fixed your computer problem." [13:46] And I said that in a Japanese accent, so take two drinks. [13:46] "Thanks, have a six pack of Corona dn go home" [13:46] She paid me ten dollars and a free sixer, so how could I refuse [13:47] I may pop the last one before long, I'm multitasking [13:48] * KaylaKaze has joined #nonprophets [13:48] which remonds me, I promised to email her... [13:48] damn, I can't spell for fuck this morning [13:49] Did you see the link in the forums - godtube.com ? [13:49] nope [13:49] lol "godtube?" [13:50] I know. I can't quite believe some of the content. [13:51] There's a rap about how girls with big bibles are more attractive. It's embarrassing to watch. [13:51] oh brother [13:51] It brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it. [13:51] "christian youth camp slingshot... SLINGSHOT? [13:51] There's also a whole bundle of straw man evolution nonsense. [13:51] isn't that like, a dangerous weapon? [13:51] for kids? [13:52] But they don't moderate their comments very well yet. A lot of abuse if happening via the comments. [13:52] "... live out the love of christ in your closest relationships..." [13:52] * zippyapparition has joined #nonprophets [13:52] what a load [13:53] I can only take about .00002 nanoseconds of that shit [13:54] It's amusing in a tragic sort of way. [13:54] important email to answer, I'll be idling [13:55] Speaking of which , if you want to hear something really funny, have a listen to Hellbound Alleee's Mondo Diablo Ep 44. She reads the funniest Christian reviews of films. The one about the Southpark Movie is screamingly funny. [13:56] I haven't been back to hellbound for awhile now. Should check in on it [13:56] I enjoy the Vox Populi podcast. [13:56] These days I listen mostly to Nova-M radio [13:56] What's that? [13:56] They carry some air america and others [13:57] they are based in Phoenix AZ [13:57] * whosawhatsis has joined #nonprophets [13:57] I'm from the UK. I have no idea about US radio. [13:57] * zacky has joined #nonprophets [13:57] well, for me, it is better than anything else except something international, like your BBC [13:57] * zacky has left #nonprophets [13:58] our news here is so controlled that we have to go outside to find out what's really happening [13:58] Sad times for our so-called ",land of the free" [13:59] * atxcats has joined #nonprophets [13:59] * Aerik has joined #nonprophets [13:59] Is the feed on yet? [13:59] I get nothing [13:59] i don't hear anything [13:59] * rudeboy belches with alacrity [13:59] yeah feeds running no sounds [13:59] I'm just getting a buzzzzzzz [14:00] k, not just me then. [14:00] ooh, not even a buzz here. [14:00] No Scarlett yet :? [14:00] :/ I mean [14:00] it's called dead air in the parlance of the profession... [14:00] nope [14:00] drums! [14:01] * Aerik hugs Non-Prophets [14:01] here we go [14:01] yay [14:01] stones! [14:01] stoned [14:01] oh, that's the Corona talking, sorry [14:03] lol [14:03] NOW I'm the host [14:03] Yay! Dennis is finally the host! [14:03] the March/April Skeptical Inquirer looks good -- the issue is "Science, God & (non)belief" [14:03] Russell is assigned? [14:03] Anyone want to buy a shitload of back issues of that mag? [14:04] I have a box full of them [14:04] ha, I've got a bunch of them [14:04] Just thought I'd ask [14:04] I'll be selling them on-line on my website [14:04] snakemasterproductions.com [14:04] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:04] Got a shitload of stuff for sale there already [14:05] more being added all the time [14:05] I'm going to start putting my old copies in the waiting room at my office [14:05] heh, there you go [14:05] perfect, hit a few people by surprise [14:05] I wasn't here the last time -- gosh, I thought they were going to say Jeff converted! [14:06] let people skype in [14:06] yeah, your show isn';t encoded for more than left right, or mono, depending on how you're doing it [14:06] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [14:06] * GMP has joined #nonprophets [14:06] neutron! [14:06] wb NJ [14:06] then you can get people from further away without too much cost [14:06] Hey, nonpropheteers! [14:06] T minus 351 days 'til Jeff returns! [14:06] * rudeboy blasts a Corona inspired belch [14:06] Damn, bubbles [14:07] is Jeff taking off for a whole year? [14:07] yup [14:07] what they put detergent in this beer? Crist on a stick [14:07] gruff voice tonight! [14:07] * scarlett has joined #nonprophets [14:08] hey all [14:08] manly voice [14:08] scarlett! [14:08] I can't hear anything [14:08] Boy, I wish I could listen to Denis instead of Dr. Mok [14:08] AH! [14:08] * Aerik hugs Scarlett [14:08] helps to turn my speakers on [14:08] are you in class, russell? [14:08] Yep [14:08] * zacky has joined #nonprophets [14:10] Audio ok? [14:10] Don't scare me like that! ;) [14:10] * zacky has left #nonprophets [14:10] Audio is fine [14:10] yeah, audio is good [14:10] at least on my iTunes it is [14:10] sound is fine in Winamp, too [14:10] also in xmms [14:10] I'm probably not going to be in chat much...sorry. Scarlett can call me if there's a huge problem... [14:10] cool [14:11] sorry,...didn't mean to scare you regarding the audio [14:12] tinyurl is good [14:12] % [14:12] 4 Don't talk about chopping up extraneous bits! :X [14:12] lol aerik [14:13] that sounds scary! [14:15] your map is a poser map. ;) [14:15] * rudeboy checks his extraneous bits... [14:15] * William_Lovering has joined #nonprophets [14:16] I don't think I have any extraneous bits. . . [14:16] such is life [14:16] * AiW has joined #nonprophets [14:16] AKA- the Mag-ster [14:16] ;) [14:17] or a sister-in-law [14:17] 4 Maybe they're expecing the Jesus DNA sample to have 4 helixes or something like Milja Jovovich in The Fifth Element [14:18] not to mention that Jesus should only have one set of DNA [14:18] Mila* [14:18] * William_Lovering is now known as SouthernFriedSkeptic [14:18] Body of Christ... [14:18] Was she really Jeezuz or just a simulation? [14:18] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:18] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:18] not to mention, you could take the dust from the coffin...add in some water and you have Jesus-bar-Koolaid-wine [14:19] wow... kinda a dirty mixer though [14:19] better put it in a blender [14:19] lol [14:19] Jeeeezuz in a blender [14:19] I love it [14:19] wafercide [14:19] The God Gene? [14:19] what goes :oh shit, oh shot, oh,shit" [14:19] Jeezuz in a blender [14:19] GIRLS WEREN'T ALLOWED TO SERVE COMMUNIION UNTIL ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO BECAUSE "GIRLS SHOULDN"T HANDLE GODS BODY" [14:20] ? *rolls eyes* [14:20] you could feel up Jesus [14:20] might give gawd an erection, then things woiuld simply get "out of hand" [14:20] Might give Jesus a stiffy...and that just makes it harder to SWALLOW. [14:20] Remember, Jesus' last command while alive was basically, "eat me" [14:20] lol [14:21] Jeeezuz pops a chubby, film at 11 [14:21] and then he died and shit himself [14:21] lol [14:21] and pissed his robe [14:21] not to mention his sandals [14:21] eww [14:21] NO no no no no no no free will! [14:21] I don't think there is a word for defiling the communion wafer [14:22] If I make out my will, it won;t be for free [14:22] actually, GMP...I think there is...but, I can't remember what it is [14:22] 6 do Christians who make a big hooplah ever think about how people's bowels immediately loosen after death? Did some Christians collect the Jesus diahrrea that fell from his body as he died on the cross? [14:22] My will cost hundreds of dollars, yeah! [14:22] the "process" of the wafer and wine brcoming the body and blood of christ is transubstantiation [14:22] yes, Aerik... the Jesus diarrhea was on ebay [14:22] would Jeezuz leavings be especially potent? [14:22] <--- former altar boy [14:22] where's the toilet paper of turin [14:22] LOL [14:22] * NeutronJack too [14:22] first time I got drunk was on pilfered altar wine - threw up for hours [14:23] <--- former girl who got to watch ALL the boys serve communion [14:23] you rejected jesus [14:23] nothing like a good purge after church [14:23] LOL GMP [14:23] scarlett - did you fool around with altar boys? [14:23] * cob has quit IRC (cob) [14:23] did you altar any of those boys...? [14:23] lol--- nah'. I was actually a really good girl. [14:23] I did alter a few of them [14:23] i have some found memories - even remember some names - [14:23] *jinx rude* [14:24] heh [14:24] Well, my brain is a little spongy today [14:24] mad cow, ithink [14:24] I did put blue food coloring in the holy water once (on a dare) [14:24] heh [14:24] * NeutronJack proposes a new drinking game rule: Drink whenever FREE WILL is mentioned. [14:24] that went really well when the parishoners started doing the sign of the cross on themselves [14:24] *hides under a pew* [14:25] hey, sounds fun. If I ever go to a catholic church, I'm bringing one of those toilet blue things with me [14:25] Shoot yourself when free will is mentioned [14:25] it was kind of like those hidden camera things where they put something on the flush handle to check and see if you washed your hands [14:25] only...in this case, you could tell who had blessed themselves as they came in the door [14:25] or didn't flush [14:25] felt my first breast in the church basement [14:26] hopefully it wasn't with the priest, GMP [14:26] LOL [14:26] she would not let me put my hand inside her panties though [14:26] that shit was on lockdown, GMP [14:26] no priest - most of the ones at my parish were straight and had girlfriends [14:26] as the nuns taught, "Good girls keep a nickel between their knees." [14:26] * Aerik once masturbated in a church just to be an asshole about church manners [14:26] so she was cheap [14:27] lol [14:27] they all started to quit after vatican II - rush out the door started around 1970 [14:27] LOL [14:27] not that cheap scarlett - i lifted some cash out of the collection box for her [14:27] jeeez, a nickel, I'd have better dating luck there [14:27] Matt = Bill O'Reilly [14:27] lol [14:27] wooooot, GMP [14:28] Right now is about the time I would usually come in and kick myself for thinking the show starts at 2:30 [14:28] :"Do your research" [14:28] the conflict between religion and science comes from the core purpose of each which is explanation of the unknown. Science has been more successful and that threatens religious authority which is resisted strongly because it has been through history tied to social authority. [14:28] the altar boys had to bring the cash back into the rectory - there was a corridor behind the altar - you could grab some cash and put in your pants real quick - although the cassock got in the way [14:28] Yep, SFS [14:29] "rectery" -- really some revealing jargon, isnt it [14:29] was it a two fingered rectory? [14:29] jeeez, one Corona and I'm going to the nasty bits [14:30] you guys need a sound board where you can just hit a button for the definition [14:30] * Aerik invites people to come to his nasty bits [14:30] In grade school - i only saw drunk priests - and those screwing the parish widows. I saw the molesters in high school [14:31] 4 You have to remember to point out that "Root of all Evil?" was not actually Dawkins's idea for the title [14:31] 4 nevermind you got it :P [14:31] it's also viewable on YouTube [14:31] Aerik- stop talking in red... you get me all excited (*does a Matt/Denis fan girl swoon) [14:31] channel 4 [14:31] "snooker" sounds vagely naughty. [14:31] it's on google video too, and you don't have to watch it in chunks [14:31] brb ... [14:32] the talk about priests got rudeboy all distracted ;0 [14:32] ;) [14:33] that one's on google video too [14:33] my littlest one is sitting here with a Carl's Jr. penguin toy--- it's making me think of nuns [14:35] this old guy I know who spent time in an orphanage once told me, "every time I see a nun, I want to kick her!" [14:35] Jesus Camp is like watching Mommie Dearest [14:35] There's "A brief history of disbelief" by Jonathan Miller, which is amazing, and the even better companion series, "The Atheism Tapes" [14:36] libraryjuice -- agreed - that was a great series! [14:36] I transcribed The Atheism Tapes. You can find the transcriptions here: http://cotimotb.siteburg.com/wiki/index.php?wiki=AtheismTapesIntroduction [14:36] more news :) [14:36] It was a lot of typing, but I think it was worth it. [14:36] haha, godtube.com [14:36] I watched a few clips already. It's quite amazing. [14:37] Christian Clown training?!? LOL [14:37] heh, the clowns are terrifying. [14:37] is the "christian" part necessary? [14:37] clowns suck [14:37] As if clowns weren't creepy enough already. [14:37] Can't sleep...clowns'll eat me [14:37] lol [14:37] the ACA hates me...NO CLOWNS. *runs away terrified* the fact that they are Jesus clowns..??? AHHHHHHHHHH [14:37] nothing new... oh boy. [14:37] My search for christian clown training returned no results. [14:38] * Aerik can't sleep... clown will eat me... can't sleep... clown will eat me... [14:38] Clowns are the new Atheist's biggest fear, since the banana. [14:38] just do clown [14:38] lol Juice [14:38] Or if a clown's coming at you with a banana [14:38] Yup, just "clown training" did it. [14:38] I started the Cult of the Infinite Mystery of the Banana long before that guy used the Banana in his little atheist ditty. [14:39] I wonder if he took the idea from my Cult? [14:39] Ok. Who has the biggest ATHEIST TUBE? [14:39] The problem for people in accepting a rational view or scientific methodology is that science is by its nature intellectually comptetitive. The role of your collegues in science is to attempt to point out the flaws in your hypothesis from every possible angle. If they do, you are expected to admit your defeat and be appreciative for what you have learned. If they cannot defeat your idea,... [14:39] ...then they should put aside their hubris and concede the possibility that you are correct. This is the opposite of ideological belief. But it takes someone who is thoughtful and confident in their ability to reason to be successful in such an enviornment. Not people brainwashed by clowns as a child. [14:39] I'll be the judge [14:39] I think John Wayne Gacy was a churchgoer (the serial killer/clown) [14:39] Did I hear "asshat"? [14:40] good points, fried [14:40] * NeutronJack drinks! [14:40] SFS - do you want to have a serious discussion????? [14:40] 4 so Ronald McDonald is a saint? [14:40] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Downloaded the WikkedWire mIRC 1.3 at http://www.wikked.org/mIRC.exe) [14:41] We have to get to the NEWS! [14:41] ;) [14:41] * GMP has quit IRC (GMP) [14:41] Of course...I am an angry atheist. :) [14:41] there must be some interesting news, scarlett? [14:41] oh my science! [14:41] I'm not sure if there's a lot of interesting news [14:41] * GMP has joined #nonprophets [14:41] Just saying whatever pops in my head. [14:42] * aANKOo has joined #nonprophets [14:42] I haven't been able to get stuff out on my blog in a couple of weeks and you know, the skeptic tank gets backed up. [14:42] bernie sanders? [14:43] All reet! [14:43] maybe ron paul - the republican/libertarian from texas [14:44] Backed up skeptic tank? Use Xtian-Ream [14:44] One tablet (not rock) and it'll purge the nasty bits [14:44] ron paul introduced the "Sanctity of Life" H.R. in 2005, but perhaps. [14:45] wouldn't it be totally cool if like Obama came out? [14:45] came out as what, scarlett? [14:45] atheist [14:45] What do you guys think about Barak Obama's atheist family. [14:45] it's got the repubs screaming [14:45] just to have a pres candidate go "fuck it!" [14:46] I still think it'll be Bernie Sanders [14:46] obama is a devout xian [14:47] EXACTLY! MATT [14:47] Devout? That's hard to tell. [14:47] At least he mentions non-believers when talking about people. He definitely respects the faithless community. [14:47] he's already destroyed the normal presidential labels [14:47] just have him go balls out and hit it [14:48] well, to destroy *all* the labels, he'd have to cut them off [14:48] ahhh [14:48] he is an active member of the trinity united church of christ on CHicago's south side [14:49] Oh, I agree that he appears religious. However, he's a politician, so it's difficult to tell what's in his heart, as opposed to what he does for the sake of appearances. [14:49] it is a megachurch whose motto is "Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian" [14:50] damn straight- don't sign up for shit you can't handle [14:50] I would rather his beliefs be private. If he is a "christian" for political reasons or is actually devout, I respect that he always acknowledges the rights of non-believers not just diverse beliefs. He also very clearly acknowledged his support of evolutionary theory. [14:50] now it's pediatricians refusing service to kids because of mommy's tattoos [14:50] GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! [14:50] wtf? [14:51] tatoos? [14:51] Obama also taught Consitutional law. Would that our current president understand the constitution. [14:51] * HPMannIII has joined #nonprophets [14:51] yes [14:51] for cuks sake! [14:51] fucks [14:51] NO! He is part of an HMO for which he has agreed to give care [14:51] the religious doctors have to take the hypocritical oath. [14:52] scarlett -- put that in red, so NP will see it! [14:52] would it be legal for him to refuse to trat a patient bause they are black? [14:52] 3 - THEY SIGN A CHARACTER WAIVER [14:52] It's bullshit [14:53] probably just as legal, but sure to get him fired [14:53] 4 What's worse, non-prophets, are incidences where a doctor thinks a procedure is immoral and procedes to LIE to a patient about the availability of the procedure, as well as say it doesn't work anyways. [14:53] 4 IF HE'S A CHRISTIAN DOCTOR, WHY IS HE HANDING OUT ANTIBIOTICS [14:53] ?? [14:54] Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [14:54] If his oath is to do no harm, then it must be assessed whether the delay of care did in fact cause further injury. If so, then he is an oathbreaker, and that is easily more aggregiously immoral than having compassion and treating a child though you may disaprove the mother's choices. [14:54] I don;t know if Obama taught constitutional law - he is still on the faculty of the University of Chicago Law School (on leave of absence) but I am not sure what he taught [14:54] salad bar of the bible [14:54] 4 while it's within their rights to refuse to do a procedure, they *must* refer the patients to another doctor/place where the procedure will be done for them. Doctors like the one you're discussin are actually violating their medical license by not doing so. [14:54] gmp -- I read it was Constitutional law [14:54] It was constitutional law. [14:54] * HPMannIII has quit IRC (HPMannIII) [14:55] He argues vehemently for separation of church and state in his writings. [14:55] HE DENIED CARE TO A FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD! [14:55] Constitutional Law III: Equal Protection and Substantive Due Process [14:55] ON A FRIDAY---SHE HAD A PAINFUL EAR INFECTION. [14:55] Pisses me off. Sorry [14:55] also - Current Issues in Racism & the Law; Voting Rights & the Democratic Process [14:56] seeing eye monkey. LOL [14:56] so it is all in the constitutional law area [14:56] the daily mail is a real shit rag [14:56] I just hope some of the Law and Economics people at UofC rubbed off on him [14:56] they prefer "simian optical aid technician" [14:57] LOL Who's [14:57] double lol who! [14:57] are the monkies unionized [14:57] ? [14:58] Who would ionize a monkey, anyway? [14:58] seeing eye monkies with....dun dun dun...bananas [14:58] other monkeys [14:58] The dogs are known as "Guide dogs for the blind" in the UK, rather than "seeing eye dog". I guess that would make a monkey a "Guide monkey for the blind". [14:58] I wouldn't ionize any monkey--- that would be messy [14:59] or make them smnell better [14:59] hehehe [14:59] bananas designed perfectly to fit into their hands... [14:59] probably make their hair stand up too [14:59] "Mohawk that monkey!" [14:59] LOL [14:59] I can't imagine these taxi drivers making a lot of money on a Friday or Saturday night - everyone in the UK is sozzled by 8pm. [14:59] what's really funny is Way of the Master's ignorance of the difference between artificially selected bananas and wild bananas. In the wild, primates eat wild bananas, which look more like green eggplants or misshapened-towards-pear-shaped cucumbers [14:59] designed by banana farmers [14:59] Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Oh [15:00] Daaaaaaaaay Oh [15:00] waaa-a-a-a-a-y oh [15:00] Daylight come and the monkey go home [15:00] Aerik: He actually retracted the banana thing in an interview on the Hellbound Allee show. [15:00] Come mister tallywhacker tally me bananos [15:00] Daylight cum and me wan' go home [15:00] I'm glad you're all talking about the Holy Fruit. [15:00] (sorry- that was awful) [15:00] Join the CotIMotB today! [15:00] heehee [15:00] no scarlett, it was awesome [15:01] how could even a fundie be stupid enough to make those claims without doing the research to learn that it's artificial selection? [15:01] Almost all commercially grown bananas are clones of one another. [15:01] Liberty University = NO ACADEMIC FREEDOM WHAT-SO-EVER [15:01] The "Cavendish" is the standard banana. [15:01] That banana segment was the most obvious freudian phallic symbolism I have ever seen. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but sometimes a banana is a symbolic dick. [15:01] i know, LU's name is so preciously Orwellian [15:01] Of-Jim-Bob [15:02] The Banana plant is actually a herb. [15:02] it's a magical atheist herb [15:02] ;) [15:02] an herb even. [15:02] 4 Devolution? how ignorant [15:02] good source of potassium [15:02]