Session Start: Sat Feb 02 12:30:57 2008 Session Ident: #nonprophets [12:30] * Now talking in #nonprophets [12:30] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, February 2nd, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [12:30] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Jan 19 17:12:26 [12:31] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [12:31] * Lucretius has joined #nonprophets [12:31] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [12:31] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [12:31] Hello [12:31] Hi [12:32] Does the show start in about 1.5 hrs? [12:32] yes [12:32] I am in Glasgow, Scotland. So I have to work it out into my time lol GMT. You guys are 6hrs behind me. [12:32] Well, welcome! :) [12:33] I usually get it via podcast but I realised I might actually be able to listen live today. [12:35] K I am off 2 do some reading. I will be back for the show. [12:36] Glad to hear it...I'll be pretty much AFK until the show. Setting up, and listening to PZ debate an ID fellow...amazing. [12:37] Yep I listened to that also. Looking forward to todays show. Can I ask(if you are still here) who am I speaking too? [12:38] Yup [12:38] This is Matt [12:38] Ok. [12:38] I'll let you get back to preparing. [12:40] No problem...it's insanely complicated: set up a few chairs and mics, turn on a notebook and the mixer...play some Guitar Hero...read some e-mail...etc. [13:02] hi all [13:03] the PZM debate was funny. Especially when they got all upset when he said, "Your ignorance is not evidence". "Well.. I don't really appreciate that word..." lol [13:09] * Canadian_hoser has joined #nonprophets [13:21] hey hoser. [13:25] * grrrrraeme has joined #nonprophets [13:26] * Aerik_ has joined #nonprophets [13:26] Hi [13:27] y'all ready for a show? [13:29] * Aerik_ is now known as Aerik [13:29] * Aerik initiates a combination of beeps, whirs, and chirps to communicate with r3d3 [13:30] * Omorpheus has joined #nonprophets [13:30] beep beep wheee-bop bleeeee [13:30] whatcha doin in here omor [13:31] I haven't listened to a non-prophet show in awhile, but thanks to you I know today they're doing one [13:31] ^_^ [13:31] ^_~ [13:31] be warned, they're still habitually late [13:31] * Friar_Zero has joined #nonprophets [13:32] Now, now...if you're going to expose all of our faults, it's only fair to mention that we tend to run long (though I'm not sure everyone considers that a positive) [13:33] oh noes, they're paying attention, stop the gossip train [13:33] Sorry, new guy question: When will the live feed be accessible? [13:33] when it is. Different every time. [13:33] Thanks. [13:33] I'll probably set the stream up in about 10 minutes...might have music playing for a bit. The show is scheduled to start in 25 min...but, as they said, we're almost always late [13:34] basically 15 before show starts we start randomy checking it [13:34] We might be on time today, though...Shilling is already here and most of the stuff is set up [13:34] Denis and Russell should be here in the next 15 or so [13:34] pre-show music? you guys are in danger of becoming pros at this [13:35] Bah, when I first took over the equipment, I'd start the feed an hour early and play a whole album while I did setup. :) [13:35] must've been before I ever started showing up. [13:35] Well, almost no one connected an hour early. [13:36] <-- potty break [13:38] * Aerik back [13:39] friar_zero you know how to listen to the feed, right? [13:40] I feel a real player/ winamp fight coming on [13:40] Did everyone see the current http://cectic.com/ ? [13:40] real player got declared badware today, lozer [13:41] ah, that's better. Always need my dose of vitriol [13:41] http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006421.html [13:42] cectic is the new xkcd. it's followed for too little reason [13:42] I like the wow reference, but I don't get the joke. [13:43] 5 check out this xtian parody fo the dawkins funeral service. it ends with burning dawkins in effity. Fuckin disgusting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSyKtiYUegU [13:44] No fair - you're using the color I use to highlight my own comments!! [13:44] juju it's not so much a 'haha' joke as it is an example of how the discovery institute works [13:44] oh, okay [13:44] brown? [13:45] yeah, it's like a reddish brown. No big deal, it's no like I'm super active in chat :) [13:45] Ok, one person has connected [13:45] Starting music [13:45] That was me! [13:45] Whoops, I reverted to a person whose never used the internet before...woot! [13:45] mmm... beautiful silence. [13:46] Should be some jazz now [13:46] yes, there is jazz on my end now. [13:46] oh it started right as I was about to give up and type "nothin" [13:46] euugh [13:47] omg technology works! [13:47] Ahh Dave Brubeck [13:47] I don;t want to think of your end and jazz [13:47] jass [13:47] why not, I do. [13:48] In a random aside concerning jazz, I recently discovered a song by Ray Charles called "let's go get stoned". This has been your random fact of the day. [13:48] yesterday a radio statoin's theme was rock bands ripping off acoustic artists [13:50] * Targetta has joined #nonprophets [13:50] Hey targ [13:50] Hey Aerik, et al [13:51] whoah [13:51] lol trying to sound smooth [13:51] lol [13:52] timing is perfect though [13:52] what book are they talking about I wonder [13:53] * BobC has quit IRC (BobC) [13:53] it's like there are voices in my head, but I don't know from where. [13:54] gotta go - thought I might get to listen, but got to do dad type duties. cya [13:54] I thought I heard "wheel of time", but that may have been the other voices in my head. [13:54] * grrrrraeme has quit IRC (grrrrraeme) [13:56] Hi All [13:56] hey lucre [13:57] I feel like I'm in a Barnes and Noble with this music [13:57] * taterthraccoon has joined #nonprophets [13:57] Was just doing some reading while I waited for the show to start. [13:58] * MattEdd has joined #nonprophets [13:58] Currently reading Challenging Nature by Lee Silver. Quite good so far. Only read the first 3 chapters. [13:59] somebody in the studio is trying to read a book and hating it [13:59] * BobC has joined #nonprophets [13:59] has the show started yet? [13:59] there's jazz playin [14:00] was [14:00] do they have a license to broadcast that music? [14:00] Woot! First time listening live. Not that I am hearing anything. [14:00] maybe they're gonna play "feel so good" by chuck magioni to irritate friar zero [14:00] Why would I be irritated? [14:00] cuz you said you felt like you were in a barnes and noble [14:01] thought you were complainin [14:01] * RQ has joined #nonprophets [14:01] Nope, just stating because of the tone of that last song. I like Jazz and Blues. [14:01] * occupant has joined #nonprophets [14:01] occupado [14:02] hi [14:02] * bugsoup has joined #nonprophets [14:02] hello infidels [14:02] You'll be happy to know that we're late - but far less late than usual :) [14:03] What is usual late? [14:03] 10 [14:03] Well, we just started, so today - 2:03. Last week was 10-ish [14:03] Just started? I'm not hearing anything. Am I going to have kick itunes? [14:03] it just started just now [14:04] * ryandean has joined #nonprophets [14:04] There's a bit of a delay.It's to be expected. [14:04] I feel like I should salute [14:04] hello everyone [14:04] Hi. [14:04] my first time listening to the live show [14:04] Same here [14:04] cool [14:04] nice [14:04] cool [14:04] We went from jazz to hair rock. I think I have whiplash. [14:04] haha [14:04] at least it's not nsync and aerosmith like that nfl halftime [14:04] * Zadius has joined #nonprophets [14:05] There will be NO "boy band" intro music while I'm in charge of it [14:05] thank dawg for that [14:05] no, thank Ceiling Cat [14:06] he sees what u did there [14:06] You* [14:06] no "c"rap either [14:06] Even in other rooms, omor? >:( [14:06] It's universal [14:07] i just googled "Ceiling Cat" [14:07] simply awesome [14:07] hehe [14:07] one of the more famous lolcats [14:07] Somewhere there's that same image with Shatner instead of a cat. [14:08] i like the "history of lolcats" version where they stuck just the head/hole onto that painting by michaelangelo [14:08] i like http://www.ceilingcat.com/index.php?pic=34 [14:08] go pats [14:09] Has anyone read "Challenging Nature" By Lee Silver? [14:09] recently a real life ceiling cat discovered its owners stash of child porn dvd's between the cabinet and the ceiling. [14:09] I like this one: http://www.ceilingcat.com/index.php?pic=24 [14:09] I feel that double standard also. I have mentioned this to my female friends. [14:10] I am male btw lol [14:10] did soembody think otherwise [14:11] Ceiling Shatner: http://www.flickr.com/photos/friar-tucker/2236745183/ [14:12] ew creapy (the picture, not the girl matt had sex with) [14:12] I think it's much different when it's the 7th and 8th graders [14:12] * taterthraccoon has quit IRC (taterthraccoon) [14:12] OK, we now know the reason Matt is an atheist. His incredibly traumatic experience at 15. [14:12] of course! [14:13] Why is yoda on the show? [14:13] 15 year old boys want molested by hot teachers. [14:13] I know I did. [14:14] I know this douche I run into on reddit.com all the time who would claim that the show's perpetrating female power and male oppression right now [14:14] what was the name of the drug again? [14:14] INquiring minds want to know. [14:14] anyone try nutmeg? [14:15] oh great, a salvia thread [14:16] What does this have to do with the fact there is no god? [14:16] you're like that about tv anyway [14:16] They have an hour and a half to fill. [14:16] they're relating to a past show about the similarities between drug highs and divine revelation (and cases when that's all it was) [14:17] I did a paper about that in college [14:18] I can't get the feed too many people connected - wtf! It is a chrsitian conspiracy! [14:18] I Feed is maxed [14:18] If you've connected more than once (to record or whatever)...drop one [14:18] too popular these days! [14:18] Actually, looking at the server... [14:18] back, and to the left... [14:18] back, and to the left... [14:19] There's one person constantly reconnecting [14:19] 68.38.104.152 - check your IP [14:19] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:19] phew, thats not me [14:19] Not me [14:19] not it. [14:19] um how do I do that? [14:19] not me [14:20] go to: http://www.whatismyip.com/ [14:20] Sorry but I have to go [14:20] not me [14:20] see ya [14:20] i keep buffering tho [14:20] I will tune in next show [14:20] pft, buffering [14:20] you can dl the podcast [14:20] phew - not my IP [14:21] not me [14:21] Matt - it's Ramachandran [14:21] V S Ramachandran? [14:21] I listened to them all Matt [14:21] Yep [14:21] yay - connected now [14:21] V S Ramachandran? [14:22] Isn't he the opening batsman? [14:22] There is some great stuff like that at ted.com, too. [14:22] Phantoms in the Brain by V S Ramachandran is a great book. [14:23] I tuned in a little late after having problems with the audio stream. What IP is everyone looking for? [14:23] ass starving - spiriturality 101 [14:24] 68.38.104.152 [14:24] You've got to be kidding, that's me. What's the problem? [14:24] you're constantly reconnecting [14:25] Yes, I know. Winamp does that when there's a problem. [14:25] I think Matt is saying you opened a lot of connections to the stream, which prevented others from connecting since there is a max [14:25] * Manya has joined #nonprophets [14:26] Well, I didn't do any of that on purpose. Sorry about that, though. [14:26] No problem.. we were just looking into it. [14:27] well it is a mortal sin dave - clearly you will be going to hell - sorry, not my rules [14:28] The Potato:http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008/01/29/spud-nut/ [14:28] Whoops! http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008/01/29/spud-nut/ [14:28] Is that the 11th commandment? No multiple connections? [14:28] 15th but just as valid [14:28] what are 11 to 14? [14:28] i think the 11th is, "thou shalt not cross streams" [14:29] So now I've broken all 15, apparently. [14:29] no washington's over delaware's [14:29] this of course has multiple meanings, just like everything else [14:29] imagine if the whole world just did multiple connections next thing you know we will have gay men marrying donkeys [14:29] I downloaded it. It's 43 minutes long. [14:29] * BobC has quit IRC (BobC) [14:30] * ilya has joined #nonprophets [14:30] Uh oh. Just lost audio again. [14:30] i have audio [14:31] 4 re-read that argument slower [14:31] non-sequitor [14:32] are you wanting me to re-read the argument? [14:32] yeah [14:32] gimme a sec [14:32] i'd google it if I could remember a whole piece of it [14:33] motivation of god to create the universe, boredom? [14:33] I have it in e-mail, I'll read in a sec [14:33] he did it because it is pretty [14:33] I would if I was god [14:34] dont you know? a cosmic turtle from a stephen king book threw up and that's how the universe started [14:34] * ilya has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]) [14:34] king is the King? [14:34] That wa s a terrible ending to IT [14:34] * ryandean has quit IRC (ryandean) [14:35] I can't stand his writting style [14:35] * stephen has joined #nonprophets [14:35] is the connection timing out for anyone else? [14:35] nope [14:35] nope [14:36] one break for me so far [14:36] yep - i have given up listening [14:36] yeah, wonder what's going on? [14:36] that's an awful argument [14:36] * Targetta has quit IRC (Targetta) [14:37] that made my wife's head explode. [14:37] sweet [14:37] 4 thanks. Found page w/ quote here http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/gods.html [14:38] my connection is fine. I'm not using the website, but chatzilla [14:38] thanks for re-reading Matt, and thanks for the link Aerik [14:40] Now everyone sing: "Every sperm is sacred" [14:40] raping robots! [14:41] If you believe in god then it follows that he is the biggest cause of miscarriages in history [14:41] regadless belief in god is the biggest cause [14:41] I agree the sex stuff is about controlling sexuality, but I don't think the embryo thing is anti-science [14:41] * MorseCode has joined #nonprophets [14:42] I've read 4 copies of the same article today that says HPV is causing oral cancer in men. People are blaming cunnilingus as if lots of men do it [14:42] There are legitimate moral reasons to put limits on science, even if I don't agree with catholics [14:42] Sex for everyone! [14:42] Limits on people. Not on science. [14:42] Damn, I'm late! ;) [14:43] MorseCode, you just missed it, Matt read out the lootery numbers for next week [14:43] I wonder if some of the anti sex stuff stems from fear of women sleeping around and men raising other men's babies.- evolutionary explaination [14:43] lottery* [14:43] lol [14:43] LOL (lottery numbers) [14:43] If I wasn't a evolutionalary deadend, I would clone myself [14:43] is the stream continually rebuffering for anyone else? [14:44] A little bit [14:44] perfectly fine for me [14:44] mine is rebuffering constantly [14:44] you can make it continually buffer depending on how you set up winamp's primary buffer and the mp3 plugin's separate streaming buffer [14:44] It is a bit choppy [14:45] unrelated...anybody see cloverfield? have the christians started saying that it's the new rapture yet? [14:45] My audio was pretty bad for a while, not it cuts out only occasionally. [14:45] no problem using real [14:45] buffering isn't a problem [14:45] Is cloverfield worth the 12 bucks [14:45] yes [14:46] The vaticans position on bioethics lol. I mean seriously could you give less of a fuck what they think. [14:46] I thought it was awesome [14:46] yes [14:46] I like to open the in_mp3 settings and set the streaming pre-buffer to minimum (16), then go to the primary buffer and push all 3 settings to 20 seconds [14:46] and btw my feeds been out for a couple minutes now [14:46] i'm going to see it again, actually...quite a good movie...probably won't win an oscar, but still great [14:46] I just got a break in the audio [14:46] I guess I will go see it now, you guys better be right [14:46] does anyone want a reading assignment for later, i have a pretty long response to a theist that i'd like to get feedback on [14:47] what's in on? [14:47] The pope shatters common sense. [14:47] http://bugsoup.blogspot.com/2008/02/work-in-progress-my-response-to-mark.html [14:47] Elderly virgins in red velvet :-S [14:47] I refuse to be given moral lessons by a hitler youth. [14:47] ah mark carlton [14:48] I believe I've debated him before [14:48] i'm sorry [14:48] that's long [14:49] there's alot of incorrect information to respond to [14:49] a lot* [14:49] I agree with Russell [14:49] ...merits in their own "Reich" [14:50] * Dave63_2 has joined #nonprophets [14:50] Can't resist [14:50] How can you take sexual advice from an elderly virgin. lulz. [14:50] i'd rather get advice from the grandma in BeerFest [14:51] that's the best analogy i've ever heard about the abortion issue [14:52] What is human dignity? We are just what evolution has come up with so far. We aren't it's goal. Humanity is something to be surpassed. [14:52] Never watched Futurama?!?! Blasphmey! [14:52] Favorite episode, Bend was god and then spoke to god [14:52] SING! [14:53] If you have seen me try to get out of a bean bag chair you will know what human dignity is. [14:53] Matt you prude. [14:53] lol [14:53] Jesus is a dick [14:53] I think God created car crashes because he doesn't want us to add to global warming, therefore seatbelts are evil. [14:53] and speed limits [14:54] Satan created the condom [14:54] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:54] and impotence [14:54] and Hanna Montana. [14:54] that one is true [14:54] BLASTOCYSTS UNITE! [14:55] lol [14:55] haha I googled "jesus loves the little zygotes" and the first hit is a blog that talks about listening to the non-prophets [14:55] I have 20 unborn children (I'm 33 and got my period at 13) and they never send me mother's day cards. :( [14:56] dial an atheist # (512) 458-5731 [14:56] 2 second old post? [14:56] Bot fly? [14:56] Yes, how does a Japanese hornet know where your eyes are, in order to spray the flesh-melting acid into them? Must have been intelligently designed... [14:56] number still works? [14:56] lol Dave you joker. [14:56] of course they can say those insects used to be good [14:56] how did Noah keep all those nasty bugs on the ark? [14:57] God loves the little insects. [14:57] it's called idiocy, they don't need excuses, they can just shut their eyes and pretend to be invisible [14:57] no wonder sprare ribs are so tasty [14:57] Noah's ark was like the T.A.R.D.I.S. It is bigger on the inside. Noah was a timelord. lol. The re-TARDIS. [14:57] lulz [14:57] lol [14:57] TeeHee [14:57] lol [14:57] Tommorow is Secular Sunday and don't how to celebrate it. I've already taken down the aluminium pole. [14:58] what do want to stick it in? LOL [14:58] like the festivus pole? [14:58] for festivus? [14:58] lol [14:58] allegedly [14:58] This argument is messed up. [14:58] * MorseCode has quit IRC (MorseCode) [14:58] messed up and hot [14:59] the creationists like to say that before the first sin, the animals were vegetarians and non violent. so it's not like they'd turn around and bite adam's dick off or anything [14:59] crazy people [14:59] wow, i'm about two minutes behind right now [15:00] That reminds me that I recently heard that Lillith was actually Steve in disguise. So god did create Adam and Steve. Take that random comments. [15:00] spoiler alert [15:00] hehe [15:00] thanks [15:01] I'm the one with the cat named Lilith if anyone remembers:) [15:02] Domesticated T-Rex helped build the tower of Babel [15:02] Adam and Eve - Cain and Abel. Did they fuck mommy? [15:02] a lot of incest in the OT [15:02] im glad this isn't video chat [15:03] Sperm din't wiggle ubntil after the fall [15:03] sex didnt feel good until after the fall, I've heard [15:03] if god creates it, it's natural. If man creates it, it's inherently "evil" and therefore not natural. [15:03] before the fall, it was more or less like takin a piss. [15:03] Only anal sex in the garden of eden [15:03] What is so good of nature? [15:03] Ebola virus is natural [15:04] Well, yes, but Ebola only kills the infidels. [15:04] most of which, conveniently, are black [15:04] but it doesn't kill ALL the infiedels [15:04] Which proves god is a mormon [15:04] So believers have super interferon that stops the Ebola virus? lol [15:04] zing [15:04] Maybe the answer is IT"S A FUCKING FAIRY TALE! [15:05] omg, mattedd going to hell for being an unbeliever [15:05] what if you are wrong, think of the children! [15:05] wait? Unbelievers go to hell? [15:05] In the media artificial seems to be said in a pejoritive sense and natural seems to generally mean good. [15:05] j/k [15:06] Nitpicking over basic definitions, it's like Jeff is back. [15:06] teehee? [15:06] they sound like theologans [15:07] Stop trying to apply logic to the bible Russell, lol. Its a vacuum of illogical bullshit. [15:07] Next news please [15:07] Thanks [15:08] ceiling cat says your request is denied. k thx bai [15:08] like saying "i'm going to take away recess" to a four year old [15:09] I'm going to cut my ceiling off then [15:09] does eve have ANY life experience to base things on? [15:10] buffering, again [15:10] yeah... you're alreadt 5 min behind [15:10] not english, Canadian, eh [15:10] I'm at the mid-air breakdown, where is everybody else? [15:11] insane pilot and floatation devises [15:11] how close am i now [15:11] close as I am [15:11] real close [15:11] cool [15:11] listener mail [15:11] alright, i'm back on track [15:11] didn't miss much [15:12] giggity, giggity [15:12] the dictionary sux [15:12] the dictionary has a vanity plate that reads "isuxdix" and tries to convince us it says "i sure xylophone do I xylophone" [15:12] look it up in a philosophy dictionary instead [15:12] Anyone know of a video link of this http://richarddawkins.net/article,2205,n,n [15:13] nope [15:14] Luc- someone in the comments posted a link to a short clip [15:14] Screw that. I define myself. A dictionary doesn't define me. [15:15] pharyngula will probably have it ASAP [15:15] Yea its only 5 mins [15:15] By the way, I was the guy who offered the animal rights question awhile back. They forgot to mention my name and I demand approval. [15:15] there was asking a question, and then there was a guy who kept making fun of the NP for their conversation about it [15:15]