Session Start: Sat Apr 12 13:18:32 2008 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:18] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:18] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, April 12th, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [13:18] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Mar 29 16:57:41 [13:18] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:19] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [13:19] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [13:23] * TedInSaltLake has joined #nonprophets [13:25] hiya [13:25] hey there. [13:29] This is the first time I'm getting to try this live. [13:31] more people should be coming in any time now. [13:31] Should I be concerned the gotdns.org link doesn't work for me now? [13:31] we should take bets on whether they will start on time [13:32] I know what the safe bet is [13:32] Well... there needs to be a line, like +22 minutes. [13:32] well, you guys started on time last week [13:32] as ray comfort might say, once on time, always on time [13:33] You don't get anything until they actually start sending something Kevin. we all keep reconnecting every few minutes. When they finally start transmitting, you'll hear about it. [13:33] nonprophets.gotdns.org should work - but the stream isn't live yet. Give me a minute and I'll let you know when it's up and you can try again [13:33] Got it! Thanks! [13:35] Stream should be live now...playing NiN until we get started [13:35] it's the weekend and this bus driver doesn't want to hear any "on time" speak [13:36] * Jenn has joined #nonprophets [13:36] Hmmm...I saw one listener connect and then drop [13:36] Yay! Got it. [13:36] Ok, cool [13:36] AFK [13:36] the skeptologists in their 1st episode will discuss wheatgrass and ghosthunters instruments. [13:37] * Diagoras has joined #nonprophets [13:37] hello [13:37] hey there. [13:37] hi there. ted.. you out there? [13:38] i [13:38] i'm in [13:38] yeh yeh. [13:39] you on the audio, jenn? [13:39] * Aerik connects [13:40] "we are connected" - VoiVod [13:40] can't tell. nothin's playin- is that correct? [13:40] * The has joined #nonprophets [13:41] There's NIN playing right now. [13:41] should have NiN [13:41] got it. [13:41] it would help if i turned the volume up :-) [13:42] * The has quit IRC (The) [13:42] in honor of Ted: http://keck.ucsf.edu/~schenk/05_bus_to_beelzebub.mp3 [13:43] * The has joined #nonprophets [13:43] so how am i supposed to play this .pls file? [13:43] i don't get it [13:43] winamp [13:43] or iTunes. [13:43] Mine opened in iTunes. [13:43] it's not working on itunes [13:43] damn, why doesn't hyperlink work for me in this? [13:44] mine isn't working either ted. [13:44] you'll have to write it down and type it in [13:44] * Rachel_Uldriks has joined #nonprophets [13:44] woo, and the winamp download page gives me a giant ad for christianity.com [13:44] how ironic [13:44] lol [13:44] * The has quit IRC (The) [13:45] i just plugged the url into my download manager and voila [13:45] well, maybe i can manage typing now, but after all them "asshats".... [13:45] * TheDefenestrator has joined #nonprophets [13:45] * Cafeeine has joined #nonprophets [13:46] well that was a dumb song [13:47] all right, winamp got it working [13:47] thanks guys [13:47] i don't even know where that squiggly is on my keyboard [13:47] hahahahahaha [13:48] it should be the top-leftmost key [13:48] shifted [13:48] look to the left of your 1 [13:48] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [13:48] ñ [13:48] ~`~'~`~'~ [13:49] mine's working woot [13:49] http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9669/jewlyingforjesuscy8.jpg [13:49] aerik, you didn't like the song? [13:49] the beelzebub song? no [13:49] hehe [13:49] * TheDefenestrator has quit IRC (TheDefenestrator) [13:50] get onto da bus!!! [13:50] The Pope is going to DC!! [13:50] lol [13:52] * Cheesy has joined #nonprophets [13:52] * Blue has joined #nonprophets [13:52] ted, are you using mirc or the java chat applet [13:54] * TheDefenestrator has joined #nonprophets [13:55] * Russ has joined #nonprophets [13:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub [13:56] hm... got some time-zone confusion here, what (relative) time does the show start? [13:56] In theory: in 3 minutes. [13:56] 3 minutes [13:57] I want to move to theory...everything works there [13:57] We're close [13:57] ah, ok right on time [13:58] * rostaman has joined #nonprophets [13:58] never got NIN... anyone else? or is the Ted just a lame-o [13:58] the ted is just a lame-o [13:58] i got nin [13:58] hangin head in shame [13:59] no need. you got voivod, which, is more than most people can say [13:59] the audio stopped...does this mean the show is starting or did my connection screw up? [13:59] my audio stopped too [13:59] mine stopped [13:59] it stopped here too [13:59] * jainie has joined #nonprophets [13:59] okay good [14:00] "nothing can stop the psychic vac-u-uM" [14:00] * EdSG has joined #nonprophets [14:00] Hello everybody! How are you doing? [14:01] ted don't feel bad, I thought NIN was sorta tardy even in the 90s [14:01] good thanks [14:01] Fine and dandy! this is my first time in the NP chat, actually :) [14:01] Whatever NIN is, it was not meant to be heard in a 40kbps steam. [14:01] i'm not alone!!! [14:01] nine inch nails [14:01] * idonotgetit has joined #nonprophets [14:01] likewise, a first [14:02] * occupant has joined #nonprophets [14:02] It's my second, so I feel you guys :-) [14:02] Me, too - first. [14:02] Do we need to do introductions? :-) [14:02] music for people who had lots of tats piercings and stuff in mid-90s [14:02] i'm a nonprophets chat room virgin too [14:02] me too [14:02] me, a first, three weeks ago [14:02] Don't worry, it's painless ;-) [14:02] do re mi [14:02] speaking of nin, did anyone buy ghosts i-iv [14:02] I've been listening for over a year now, though :) [14:03] i've been listening since the show damn near started [14:03] wow [14:03] yay [14:03] Woot! Sound :-) [14:03] ah, this lady [14:03] Sadly, I listen to each episode a few times during the week. Should maybe get a life. :-) [14:03] i've been listening for more than a year now too [14:03] Rep. Monique Davis [14:03] ahhh monique davis! [14:03] grrrr [14:03] that's a lady's voice? [14:03] kevin and ted would get along nicely [14:03] oh, that hag [14:03] Kevin - lol, I do, too. it's great to listen to when I'm working. [14:04] could be Chris Tuker [14:04] I've been voraciously listening to past shows, this is my first live show [14:04] Tucker [14:04] she gets crazy... wait for it [14:04] i'm suddenly mad [14:04] Mine, too, Cafeeine! [14:04] "get out mah seat!" [14:04] This asshole's excuse for this rant was that she was angry at a chicago student being killed via guns [14:04] holy shit, i hadn't heard the audio [14:04] oh yeah, she apparently apologized to Sherman, but the rest of the atheists in US are still waiting [14:04] grrrr [14:05] that's fuggin disgusting [14:05] the only source for the apology is sherman's blog, but then he said something racist about her [14:05] Nice begginning, it's gonna be a great show... [14:05] .. for Jeff, at least ;-) [14:05] notice that this lady had several people in the room saying "amen". scary [14:05] mash-up! [14:05] well i'm sure a lot of people feel the same way she does [14:05] btw If the non-prophets are pinning international locations anywhere, you got a listener from Athens, Greece [14:05] at least she's willing to admit it [14:06] Ohh, this reminds me - I found this song called "Bitch Slap Me, Jesus" - I should send it to you guys for an opener - lol [14:06] she should've been fired or forced to resign [14:06] Athens is already on the map - but I'll mark it down for 2 ;) [14:06] anyone heard the song, "Jesus the Pimp" by the Coup? [14:06] nooo... [14:06] Hey, TedInSaltLake: Texas and Arizona are done with the FLDS now...your turn ;-) [14:06] it is hillarious [14:06] * JanesCalamity has joined #nonprophets [14:07] haha i love the intros [14:07] Good, Guadalajara, MÃ©xico here! Anybody from there? [14:07] no [14:07] sorry [14:07] <-- Washington state, here :) [14:07] nope...i'm from boring old buffalo, NY [14:08] Yay! Sky-miles! [14:08] here's where Sherman went wrong http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/11/the-monique-davis-story-hasnt-gone-away-just-yet/ [14:08] I am near Buffalo NY! [14:08] * JanesCalamity has quit IRC (JanesCalamity) [14:08] * Blue has quit IRC (Blue) [14:08] I am just south of Rochester [14:08] cool [14:08] * JanesCalamity has joined #nonprophets [14:08] Depends on how gentle the cavity search is and how kinky you are XD [14:08] scared me [14:08] hiya. [14:08] amen [14:08] jell-o [14:08] halleluyer! [14:08] i get that punchy for jesus feelin' all the time. [14:09] hello JC [14:09] sweden <- [14:09] nooooooooooo [14:09] hahaha [14:09] FLDS - ironically fulfilling Joe Smiths vision way more than Salt Lake Mo's ever did [14:09] oh scared me! [14:09] can anybody tell me how to hook up to the live stream? the link doesn't work for me [14:09] gaaaaaack! oh, that was meeeen [14:09] * Lbb has joined #nonprophets [14:09] Do you have iTunes, Winamp, Win Media Player? [14:09] open it in winamp [14:09] Janes - Winamp is good for that, but there are only 30 connections for the live stream available. [14:10] well, I know I have itunes and WMP [14:10] winamp works for me, itunes works for those who are brainwashed by steve jobs ;) [14:10] yeah meanie [14:10] Check [14:10] haha crucified rabbit [14:10] I thought it ressurected and went to heaven [14:10] easter is wabbit season after all [14:10] when I click the link it tries to load a DVD player, and gives me a bunch of options that I don't understand and then directs me to a folder with a weird name that I can never find again [14:10] media player classic works for me [14:10] MPC is great [14:11] I just wanna click and listen! brp [14:11] i dont think mpc does streaming though [14:11] Go to iTunes, Advanced > Open Stream... [14:11] Paste the URL there [14:11] okay! I'll try that. [14:11] your associations are wrong... are you using ie or firefox? [14:11] <---technically retarded. [14:11] or do what ed said [14:11] mpc is indeed great, who needs all the crap added since v6.4? [14:12] thats was irc rooms are for, unconditional tech support [14:12] iPod slave, so... :-( [14:12] Free tech support, too! [14:12] yeah, same here - I am such an iTunes hoor. [14:12] oh boy! It worked! [14:12] I third that, ipod slave [14:12] Thank you! [14:12] I use a mpc/ winamp combination [14:12] Great, :-) [14:12] Schweeeeeet. [14:12] I sort of live under a rock... [14:13] at least it worked if they're talking about Monique Davis now [14:13] I live under a rock called Kansas. ben stein has a huge Expelled! ad in our newspapers. In the sports section. [14:13] That lady is a DEMOCRAT?! [14:13] hey there are some people who do live under iraq...kuwaitis! [14:13] It shocked me that she's a democrat [14:13] i'm just jealous of ipod users [14:13] Holy kumquats. [14:13] Yeap [14:13] it didn't shock /me/ that she's a democrat. anti-atheist bigotry is very widespread [14:14] yeah, but the republicans tend to be more vocal about that [14:14] Well, usually the jeebus stuff leans more towards right-wing conservatives. in my experience, anyway. [14:14] drink up [14:14] [14:14] who's drinking? [14:14] *takes a sip of Dr. Pepper* [14:14] just becuse democrats are less likely to be dominionists doesnt mean they hate atheists much less [14:14] well in this country at least there are huge religious sections of the left too [14:14] moi [14:14] 3"hey lady, you're breaking the law". "you're an atheist! Shut up! We hate you!!" [14:14] *takes a sip of robitussin* [14:14] *takes a sip of dihydrogen monoxide* [14:15] delightful [14:15] a moment of silence - what if i have to fart? [14:15] negra modelo here [14:15] lol [14:15] Ted> Hold it until your ears pop! [14:15] SBD, Ted. SBD. [14:16] Monique went all Revival [14:16] ear popping is also not allowed, deal with it [14:16] Ahh! Red Herring! [14:16] "you're breaking the law". "You don't care if kids have guns! Shut up!" [14:17] i'm actually on davis's side... sherman called her a negro... [14:17] j/k. but he really did call her a negro [14:17] then don't be on either side. they are both wacko [14:17] you have a link on that? [14:17] I think they are both bigots [14:17] no matter what, we know better than to allow guns in colleges -- sad as it is, most college freshman are still morons who do retarded pranks that are getting them hurt, and adding guns to that shit isn't going to help [14:17] http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/11/the-monique-davis-story-hasnt-gone-away-just-yet/ [14:18] Bill'o tripped up [14:18] thanks [14:18] olbermann rules [14:18] I just don't get how she can justify giving public funds to a church. And her excuse is that it's dangerous for kids to know atheism exists? [14:18] *cuckoooooo* [14:18] Personally, I think it's more dangerous to know that guns are within reach, myself. [14:19] thx [14:19] Atheism makes your brains go boom figuratively. Guns make 'em go boom literally. [14:19] ha! :-) [14:19] Not sure my brain went boom [14:19] *grins* [14:19] guns = the great equalizer [14:19] it just went. "oh. I get it. No god." [14:20] not that i'd ever own one [14:20] guns bad. [14:20] in a way atheism = the great equalizer [14:20] well i don't think it's that simple...i'm sure glad the cops have em [14:20] there are no chosen people [14:20] but any gal who can fend off a rapist motherfucker... guns + good [14:20] well, I was going to say - if they're abused! [14:20] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [14:20] Sweet Zombie Jesus! [14:20] yeah and convenience store clerks [14:20] they sure as hell need em too [14:21] 3Hi Jack [14:21] Yeah, seriously. Yikes. [14:21] 3I've never fired anything but a BB gun [14:21] 3Oh, and a water pistol. [14:21] I don't let my own sister get away with the "I had a hard day" excuse, and I won't let monique davis get away with it either [14:22] Water pistols (the wimp, cheap plastic ones) are about as far as I've gone. I haven't ever even held a real gun, myself. Helped my sis-in-law pack ammo, though. Uck. [14:22] 3That was her excuse? I went fundie Nazi on a citizen exercizing his rights because I hate atheists. But I was having a bad day, too. [14:22] * GettingOlder has joined #nonprophets [14:22] oops, brb [14:22] all this "I never touched a gun" stuff sounds a lot like Christians saying "I never drank one drop of alcohol" [14:22] 3She DOES owe an apology. [14:22] * Aerik has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]) [14:22] * crucifinch has joined #nonprophets [14:22] fundie nazi! hahahahahaha! [14:23] 3She owes all the children she's afraid will learn about atheism an apology. [14:23] Russ> Yeah, only I really never have held one. I've had drinks before! just not my thing. much like guns. [14:23] Godwin's Law: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." [14:24] i can tell you have never been a crime victim then [14:24] 3She'd only be apologizing because her spin doctors told her she should. She's not one bit sorry. [14:24] well the same goes for intelligent design movies too i guess [14:24] Russ> Not every victim of violent crime is going to reach for a weapon. [14:25] 3The moment of silence isn't good enough for fundies unless the silence is desgnated Christian silence. [14:25] Silence for Jesus. [14:25] * Aerik has joined #nonprophets [14:25] Janes - Right. Where you can look at the kid and see the little thought-bubble filled with 'Jeebus Jeebus Jeebus'... [14:25] No silence for FSM!? I want equal time!! [14:25] i think the best counter-argument against the whole prayer in school crap is the bible verse where jesus tells you to pray in your closet and not in public [14:25] aerik, you always seem to miss the lottery numbers [14:25] 3Jainie, yep [14:25] there's really no argument against that for them [14:26] I think the moment of silence should be spent listening to my atheist podcasts. [14:26] Diagoras, you are absolutely right [14:26] not mine [14:26] 3Diagoras...exactly. But fundies also ignore the verse that says if your preaching is UNWELCOME, shake the dust off your feet and LEAVE [14:26] One minute. Break out the stopwatch. [14:26] * ihedenius has left #nonprophets [14:26] * Russ has left #nonprophets [14:26] 700 club - funnier than even borat [14:27] I'd go straight for Pat! ... no, not really. [14:27] a homosexual attack on the boyscouts, wtf [14:27] 3Diamond mine king Pat [14:27] man, I am so busy attacking people... damn homosexuals [14:27] wait, they're serious?????? [14:27] 3the stream keeps getting interrupted or pausing [14:27] yeah, i'm a bisexual so they only let me participate in some of the raids, but yeah we're pretty much intent on bringing down the boy scouts [14:27] fine for me [14:27] Oh yeah. They see GLBT involvement with Boyscouts as an 'assault' on their values. [14:28] stream [14:28] It's a virus! I've got a social disease! [14:28] haahahahahahahahahaha! [14:28] I didn't hear lulz at the end, so yes they're serious [14:28] * NeutronJack dances the Officer Krupke dance. [14:28] * jainie rubs against the straight people and gets her gay all over them. [14:28] * ihedenius has joined #nonprophets [14:28] 3I heard an interview with a girlscout rep on Minnesota public radio, and she said SPECIFICALLY that lesbians and atheists are WELCOME [14:28] the only attack the gays wanna do is an attack to redecorate [14:28] Me! Me! Rub on me! [14:28] lol [14:28] 3why can't the boyscouts do the same? [14:28] As a more-right-wing secularist, I'm offended that I wasn't able to be attacked by that. [14:28] 3attack??? [14:29] Janes - Because they're trying to teach men caveman values. [14:29] Wait--I'm a middle-aged male aerobics instructor. I'm dangerous on the edge, already. [14:29] 3Only if they're getting MY money to be suckwads. [14:29] or - I should say - boys who will grow into men. [14:29] male homosexuals are attacked way more than female homosexuals, that's why [14:29] @Janes, lesbians are Ok then, but gay men are a no-no? [14:29] Jack - You might as well join up with Sigfried and Roy, yo. [14:29] 3EdSG, yes, homosexuals and atheists are welcome in the girlscouts, but not the boyscouts [14:29] Lesbians are also not allowed in the boy-scouts... Wait. What are we talking about? [14:30] Kev - slightly to the right, myself [14:30] well honestly i don't see the need for gender segregation either [14:30] oh no. the damn mormons again. [14:30] Interesting expose on BoyScouts - you can watch Penn & Teller's Bullshit. they did a nice episode about gays in the Scouts. [14:30] ah, yeah, thanks [14:30] uh oh [14:30] yeah it's a great episode, highly recommended [14:30] *nodnodnod!* [14:30] do they have a magic underwear badge? [14:30] 3I just don't understand why girlscouts and boyscouts are so diametrically different on this issue. [14:31] Because girls kick ass! [14:31] 3^5 jainie [14:31] j/k I have no clue. [14:31] if they are self-funded then they can be all nazi [14:31] ^5! [14:31] public funded... sorry! [14:31] yeah, exactly. [14:32] they're using public spaces for their meetings. [14:32] there's a clip from the P&T Bullshit! episode here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epCflp9EwTk [14:32] yay! [14:32] non-prophets on of the 12 boy scout rules is reverence. that's the context of "duty to god and your country" -- and during rank promotion ceremonies, they have to point out how god comes first before country. [14:33] The religion thing wasn't even an issue, at the start, with the Scouts. [14:33] 3LOL @ syrupy-icky [14:33] one to chew on: boy scouts was my escape from mormonousity [14:33] heeee - depends on what kind of syrup! [14:33] Until they got poisoned, that's it [14:33] 3I heart matt [14:34] 3Ted it must be hard to escape Mormonosity in Salt Lake! [14:34] on SGU they talked about the BSA and becca retracted her alleged jest statement that mormons control the BSA. Instead, she says it's just that they constitute the largest singular portion of their funding and that's how they chip away at its tolerance. [14:34] the correct term is Moronism [14:34] yeah, yeah, I know. [14:34] Magicunderwearnosis. [14:35] LOL [14:35] lol [14:35] hehehehe [14:35] 2MagicUnderpantsism [14:35] the Bullshit episode was great, because they took two groups of guys and had this Scout leader leading them through various Scoutly things, like knot-tying and fire building and so forth... one team was gay and one was straight. The gay team beat the straight team on every challenge. [14:35] janie = funnier than all get'out [14:35] much easier to escape mormonisity when you are surrounded by so many of them. you realize how nuts they are. [14:35] Ted> Aww, thank you! :D [14:35] jainie, awesome! [14:35] True that [14:36] yeah, that was the clip i posted jainie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epCflp9EwTk [14:36] 3I already feel like I live in crazy land where I am. Everybody is so cream-cheesy churchy...and so venomous if you don't believe what they believe. [14:37] Oh, good good! I didn't go to look, but I just thought I'd mention it - I thought it was really sad. The Scoutmaster leading the two groups of guys was gay and booted out of the Scouts because he was gay. I felt so sad for him :( [14:37] kansas? [14:37] What is cream-cheese churchy? [14:37] 3Dear Lord, please help my sticks make a fire and please bless my weinie roast. [14:37] jenn: writing a song called "magicunderwearnosis" as we speak [14:37] Oh yes. The 'good Christians'. [14:37] thank god. [14:37] 3Kevin, all nicey-nice on the surface and look-at-me-I-go-to-church-so-I'm-great [14:37] * Canadian_hoser has joined #nonprophets [14:38] ie. the Christians who say 'bless your/her/his/everybody's heart' but has no problem with saying 'nigger'. [14:38] i was thinking i wouldn't find the time... and you are on it. [14:38] Got it! Facade moralist-types. [14:38] Calamity, are you in kansas? [14:38] 3yes, jainie! [14:38] Ned Flanders clones? [14:38] 3Cheesy, no, I'm near Fargo, ND. [14:38] and painting the apartment... two coats!!!!! [14:38] 3Where the conservative newspaper keeps putting letters to the editor in about supporting abstinece only edu [14:38] guh! [14:38] I grew up in the south and went to Baptist kindergarten/first grade, so yeah - I saw that behavior on a regular basis. [14:39] 3"education" and those darn free thinkers trying to get the 10 commandments taken off the City Hall green [14:39] 6 [14:39] careful. don't go oveboard. i cracked a drink and am getting worthless by the minute. [14:39] isn't it obvious? if we tell kids not to have sex all their urges to do so will be instantly smothered [14:39] teen pregnancy and STDs will then disappear [14:39] 3Baptist kindergarten? sounds scarrry [14:39] Leave it to me - athiest childfree lesbian and I landed myself with two church-going conservatives. Gack. It's like a sit-com, only it's my life. [14:40] roomies [14:40] church-going conservatives for housemates, I should say. yeah. [14:40]