Session Start: Sat Jan 28 11:29:56 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [11:29] * Now talking in #nonprophets [11:29] * ChanServ sets mode: +ntr [11:29] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, January 28th, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes. (Non-Prophets)' [11:29] * ChanServ sets mode: -ahoq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [11:30] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [11:31] -> *Chanserv* topic #nonprophets The January 28th, 2006 program has been cancelled due to technical difficulties. We're sorry for the inconvenience and will be live again on February 11th, 2006! [11:31] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The January 28th, 2006 program has been cancelled due to technical difficulties. We're sorry for the inconvenience and will be live again on February 11th, 2006! (Non-Prophets)' [11:32] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Jan 28 11:32:08 2006 Session Start: Sat Feb 11 09:58:16 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [09:58] * Now talking in #nonprophets [09:58] * ChanServ sets mode: +ntr [09:58] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The January 28th, 2006 program has been cancelled due to technical difficulties. We're sorry for the inconvenience and will be live again on February 11th, 2006! (Non-Prophets)' [09:58] * ChanServ sets mode: -ahoq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [09:58] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [10:00] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com! [10:00] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com! (Non-Prophets)' [13:58] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. [13:58] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Feb 11 13:58:56 2006 Session Start: Sat Feb 11 13:59:10 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:59] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:59] * Topic is 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com!' [13:59] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Feb 11 11:14:59 [13:59] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:59] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. [13:59] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. (Non-Prophets)' [13:59] * bornbare has joined #nonprophets [13:59] Sorry, I got disconnected while I wasn't paying attention...we're broadcasting now. :) [14:00] Sean, are we setup on FTR now? [14:01] I hear you on FTR. [14:01] Great! Thanks. :) [14:05] http://atheist-experience.com/ [14:05] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [14:05] wheeee [14:05] I'M BACK! [14:05] He's our high priest, you know. [14:06] * test1 has joined #nonprophets [14:06] * test1 has quit IRC (test1) [14:06] Seen two days ago on a license plate: S8TEN [14:06] I had a good chuckle [14:06] That's SAINT Valentine's day, infidel! [14:07] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:07] Cool, it could be S810. That would confuse them. [14:07] Well, I do live in L.A. [14:07] Lots of S8TENs here... [14:07] heh heh heh heh heh [14:08] I've even worked for a few of them [14:08] Welcome to the Palendrome! [14:08] Hopefully NOT starring Mel Gibson [14:10] * NeutronJack is downloading episodes of The Atheist Experience. [14:10] * Non-Prophets cheers [14:11] It's hard to say "sales tax free". Where do the hyphens go? [14:11] * boink666 has joined #nonprophets [14:12] Oh, c'mon. "Candy Apple"? [14:13] What kind of sadists named her that!? [14:13] lol [14:13] Some confectionary? [14:14] An apple dipped in a sugary liquid that solidifies, making a sweet crunchy coating. [14:14] If I burn a bible, can I get an energy exemption from the government? [14:15] * ouini has joined #nonprophets [14:17] Chat hosted by irc.wikkedwire.com [14:17] Visit the Atheist Community of Austin website: http://www.atheist-community.org [14:17] Visit the Non-Prophets website: http://www.nonprophetsradio.com [14:17] Listen LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com [14:18] churches are tax exempt, so their finances should be public record like non profit orgs, right? Or did I miss something there? [14:19] I'm not sure how that follows. It's not clear that all non-profits should be treated the same, necessarily. [14:19] well, in their discussion, I mean. [14:19] Perhaps they aren't the same [14:20] They're a church--we can trust THEM! [14:21] right. They would never lie to me... [14:21] gawd needs money? [14:22] They're religious! No religious leader or institution has ever done anything wrong! [14:22] poor fucker... [14:22] 4hey whats up with the podcaststhe one from jan 28is missing [14:22] Tell "it" it can wait for his cut of the pie [14:22] hmm, lemme check [14:22] There wasn't a Non-Prophets on Jan 28, as I recall. [14:23] Right. "Technical difficulties" cancelled the show. [14:23] Yeah, that's the week that we had technical difficulties [14:23] oh ok ty [14:24] 0i agree no more spending fo the cathlics [14:24] BRB [14:25] The trouble is that "charity organizations" which can be monitored are allowing to merge with [14:25] Right. The man Russell was referring to was an anti-semetic rabble-rouser. [14:25] religious organizations that do not allow monitoring [14:26] Thanks, BushCo [14:31] "Explicit Warning: Atheists Swear!" [14:31] heh heh heh..... fuck. [14:32] Only in the South... "Billy Joe" [14:32] well, the bible says it is okay to sell your daughter [14:33] so I guess that includes fucking young girls too? [14:33] did you guys hear about the impaler cannidate being arrested for a warrent [14:33] A fine religious fellow [14:33] lol... no. [14:34] did he actually impale someone then? [14:34] RE: Blood DNA test: Regardless of the reason for not wanting a blood test, I agree that so long as there's no vested state interest in taking blood (as opposed to a mouth swab), he should be allowed to give the DNA however he prefers. [14:35] Can't they just ask him to shave with a razor until he accidentally cuts himself, then get the blood that way? [14:36] heh [14:36] Somebody could accidently run into him with a syringe .. oops [14:36] lol [14:37] Kind of difficult to just wait for that to happen. [14:37] DNA: A while back, the FBI followed a man around for days trying to get a DNA sample, and the agents pounced and successfully prosecuted after he hocked a lugie on the sidewalk. [14:37] They really like cigarette smokers for that reason. [14:39] They could put some tacks on a chair and tell him to have a seat. Will ass blood work? [14:39] Why would a Kansas Att. Gen use a British expression like "snogging" [14:39] how quaint [14:40] oh, now sexual actuvuty is now abuse.. [14:40] even if it is consensual? [14:40] i guess so [14:40] ok, Kansas is official a state for INSANE PEOPLE [14:40] Statutory rape is rape, even if it's consensual. [14:40] I would never even attempt to rape a statue [14:41] They aren't talking about statutory rape now, though. They're talking about minor-minor sex / making out. [14:41] Well, late on a Saturday night ... [14:41] another morals jerk [14:41] that would be statute, much more fun [14:42] oh, for fuck's sake... a 13 and a 14 year old? [14:42] it happens [14:44] but i agree having sex with miniors is sick [14:44] I watch Wonder Years, but Jeff is different. Similar, yes [14:44] Didn't watch it. [14:45] me neither [14:47] Usually you can find my back-up audio at http://www.leepfrog.com/~kwelsch/non-prophets.html [14:48] Apart from the fact that we missed the Jan 28th show, everything should be up-to-date now, for both shows. [14:49] Yeah, I'm playing catchup on all the shows I missed in the last half year.. [14:49] damn work schedule [14:49] The "technical difficulties", for anyone who's interested... My internet service provider had a major melt-down the night before the show. No service until early Saturday am, and then it was intermittent. [14:50] any radioactive spill? [14:50] We probably could have done the show, I think I had service during that 90 minutes...but it was so frustrating and risky that we just said, 'fuck it'. [14:51] If it happens again, we'll do the show and record it locally, and upload it. So no live show, but no missing shows. :) [14:51] good to hear.. [14:51] yay [14:52] what a bullshit artist.. [14:52] * ouini2 has joined #nonprophets [14:52] Weird. I was kicked off, and tried to rejoin, but apparently I'm still already connected. [14:53] I'll boot the old you, if you want [14:53] * ouini was kicked by Non-Prophets (Non-Prophets) [14:53] Please. Oh, thanks. [14:53] Speaking of religion and science, I got this recently from the Infidel Guy's site: [14:53] "Catholics offer reward for any proof that Earth revolves around the Sun" [14:53] he did try to inject "religion" by applying his own agenda in the language of the releases [14:53] http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm [14:53] what a load [14:54] A reward? How about the entire wealth of the church? Someone go porve it [14:54] prove [14:54] Yeah, there's more than one person trying that earth-centric proof thing. It's a cheap way of exploiting the integrity of science to portray scientific theories as less sound than they really are. [14:55] They think the earth revolves around "The Son", not the sun. [14:55] Penn & Teller had a great "Bullshit" show about that on Showtime. [14:56] It should be mandatory viewing [14:56] 4i got one of my christian friends to listen to your show [14:56] I'm waiting for season 3 DVDs :) [14:56] Really? What'd they think? [14:57] My brother is a Christian and listens to every episode of The Atheist Experience. [14:57] * NeutronJack is an atheist and is in efnet's #bible right now. :-) [14:57] If they're easily offended, you might have them listen to the ACA's TV show, first. Maybe edit out the crank callers first. (Why doesn't the ACA have caller ID? :) [14:58] 4he says the show made him think (aka get a headache [14:58] perhaps it woke up some dormant brain cells that needed a jolt? [14:58] like, the skeptic cells? [14:58] The TV studio doesn't have caller ID...or we would :) [15:02] 4do the nonprophets have a PO box that someone could make a donation to? [15:03] http://www.atheist-community.org/donate/ [15:03] There are too many people that believe the bible is the word of god [15:04] Thanks Jack..I was talking and couldn't get the donate link up in time. :) [15:04] ty jack [15:04] Liberal Christians: I commend them, too. But like you say, it's not ameliorating the Fundamentalism (at least in the U.S.). And Sam Harris makes a pretty good argument, similar to yours, that pretty much all religion can be viewed as a problem. [15:04] I'm an atheist so I'm still a big problem? [15:04] oh brother... [15:05] And thanks boink...anyone willing to think about donating and/or getting involved is greatly appreciated. [15:05] We just try not to pimp and big for stuff. Passing the plate is something I gave up long ago. [15:05] Sam Harris' latest take on the cartoons is fucking brilliant [15:06] Doesn't 'The Far Side' make fun of the god concept quite often [15:06] How dare you portray Mohammed as a terrorist! In retaliation, we will kill innocents! [15:06] Or 'Non-Sequitor" [15:06] Where'd you see the Sam Harris comments on the cartoons? [15:06] http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060207_reality_islam/ [15:06] It's a great read [15:06] I don't have any innocents. I do have Two dollars... [15:07] * NeutronJack just donated $5. :-) [15:08] Woot! [15:09] I really kind of like that Holocaust cartoon contest. Fair is fair! [15:11] It was like Batman--Mohammad was always wearing a mask. [15:11] The Dread Dormammu! [15:12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dormammu [15:13] Sam Harris' views: I do like his point that "Muslim immigrants show little inclination to acquire the secular and civil values of their host countries, and yet exploit these values to the utmost—demanding tolerance for their backwardness...that is regularly preached in their mosque... [15:13] An interesting illustration of exactly this is John Ronson's bit on This American Life (http://thisamericanlife.org/ra/201.ram) [15:14] Exit Jesus, stage left! [15:14] lol [15:14] * Stoneface has joined #nonprophets [15:15] Was there any outrage in the U.S. about the Mohammed cartoons? If not, then why not? [15:15] You mean outrage by U.S. Muslims? [15:15] For American Muslims, I mean. [15:16] I haven't heard of much. I suppose that they're torn between devotion to Islam, and that pesky first amendment thing. [15:17] Aren't political cartoons meant to rip somebody? [15:18] Generally, yes. [15:18] * boink666 has quit IRC (boink666) [15:19] * boink666 has joined #nonprophets [15:19] Reuter Rooters [15:20] lol [15:20] http://www.luigicascioli.it/home_eng.php [15:21] I'm listening direct [15:21] www.christianspacemission.org [15:22] Hi (wave) [15:22] http://www.atheist-community.org/donate/ [15:23] Christians ... in ... Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaace! [15:23] Starring Link Heartthrob and the invaluable Miss Piggy! [15:24] OMG. This reminds me of Roger Oakland's travelling ministries, which talks about how Satan will definitely soften up the earth to get them used to the idea of aliens. When we encounter them, we'll think they're aliens ... but they're really going to be DEMONS! [15:24] What if the aliens are hermaphrodytes or have 3 sexes? Shouldn't they be killed or something? [15:26] * Stoneface is a sci-fi freak [15:27] Thanks all! That's the show (or it will be, when you catch up past the delay!) [15:27] Soory, playing with [15:27] sounds [15:27] I'll have the backup audio up within twenty minutes. [15:27] * bornbare has left #nonprophets [15:28] Bye Non-Ps, see ya in two [15:28] Good show again [15:28] Good show, NP! [15:28] And I am outa here...... [15:28] c ya np great show [15:28] excellent show [15:28] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, February 25th, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes. [15:28] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, February 25th, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes. (Non-Prophets)' [15:28] errands to run.. [15:29] * rudeboy has left #nonprophets [15:29] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Feb 11 15:29:05 2006