Session Start: Sat Mar 11 13:32:01 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:32] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:32] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, March 11th, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes.' [13:32] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Feb 25 15:27:05 [13:32] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:32] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com! [13:32] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com! (Non-Prophets)' [13:32] there you are [13:32] Aye, had to go to a b-day lunch...I'm running behind [13:32] ah... [13:33] lots of news fodder, I expect you guys have a full load today [13:35] BRB -- one more cup of coffee to spark the neurons into full functionality today.. [13:37] Should be broadcasting music or silence ) [13:37] ok [13:38] * rudeboy loads the itunes [13:38] music [13:42] * Indefual has joined #nonprophets [13:42] NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA 948 AM PST SAT MAR 11 2006 WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 AM PST SUNDAY [13:42] Hey Rude Boy [13:42] How are you? [13:42] oh, what fun... [13:43] Hi [13:43] Yeah, LA ishaving weather today [13:43] I have a message for you, RudeBoy... [13:43] One second while I call it up. [13:43] fan mail from some flounder? [13:44] heheh, fan mail, yes... Some user on the Atheist Network called Roxie: http://www.atheistnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?p=211880#211880 [13:44] * boink has joined #nonprophets [13:44] I said I'd forward it to you today. [13:44] Read, and be flattered. [13:44] ah, already got that [13:44] Okay, good [13:44] hey all [13:44] Hello [13:44] hello [13:44] thanks anyway Indefual [13:44] Non-Prophets: Did you get the email I sent to you last week? (Also note, it's not one meant to be read on air...) [13:45] yeah, as if I have time to do a show these days... [13:45] haha, sorry to hear that. Do you browse those forums? [13:45] no [13:45] Someone else forwarded it to you, then? [13:45] I'm just so busy, I barely have time to think [13:46] hehe, did you think up that sentence yourself, or borrow it? :P [13:46] yeah, an alternate source sent me an email , the text of it [13:46] excellent. Good good. [13:46] Saturday is my only day off these days... or is it daze? [13:46] haha, nice. [13:47] friggin night shift is kiling me [13:47] not to mention the fast food.... heh [13:47] haha, they'll do that. [13:47] If gas goes back up to $3 a gallon, I'll have to quit. Too expensive to make the drive [13:48] Gotta get one of them hybrid cars. :) [13:48] too expensive [13:48] I got a little Toyota Tercel. It's great on gas, even though it's almost a decade old. [13:48] I can't even afford a pair of roller skates [13:48] :D [13:49] My minivan turns 16 this May [13:49] 208K miles [13:49] Ha, nice. How's it holding up? [13:49] and the trans needs work [13:49] hmmm [13:49] yeah [13:50] fortunately [13:50] I have it under a tight 2 year warranty [13:50] should the work should be gratis [13:50] but I will be sans automobile for several days probably [13:51] jeeez [13:51] should the work should...? [13:51] my brain is fried [13:51] At least you didn't say "my fry is brained". [13:51] heh [13:51] woke up at 10AM this morning [13:52] hm. I ghave laundry and taxes to do today [13:52] have -g [13:52] Just about finished setting up [13:53] we're loaded for bear here, Non=Profs [13:53] brb [13:54] launching the laundry now [13:54] Non-Prophets: (Repeat question:) Did you get the email I sent to you last week? (Also note, it's not one meant to be read on air...) [13:55] Checking... [13:56] I've been told - Yes, we got the e-mail and we understand. [13:56] (I didn't get it, so I'm not sure what's up...but that's the answer Jeff gave me) [13:56] good... Okay! I'm ready for the show! Waiting in anticipation. :) [13:59] ready [13:59] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. [13:59] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. (Non-Prophets)' [13:59] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:00] * atxcat has joined #nonprophets [14:00] Anyone listening via freethoughtradio.com? [14:01] * Kazim has joined #nonprophets [14:01] I am! [14:01] Hey guys [14:01] Cool, thanks [14:01] on your direct feed here.... [14:01] Beautiful Day. [14:01] Hiya Kazim [14:01] Hi Matt [14:01] * Non-Prophets sets mode: +o Kazim [14:01] I'm in class today, so I'll lurk a bit but I can't listen :( [14:01] Kazim, are you Jeff? If so, sorry you're feeling sick. [14:01] No problem [14:02] No it's Russell [14:02] Jeff's sick? [14:02] The program just said so. [14:02] So we're down to Matt and Denis? [14:02] And some girl. The owner of the house [14:02] She's been there before. [14:02] Mary? [14:02] I forget, sorry. [14:03] They mentioned that ... like... half a minute ago. [14:03] That info is long gone. :) haha [14:03] I'm listening via freethought radio -- I couldn't last time, but it works on the realone player on my computer [14:03] Maybe I can listen a bit... class has wireless internet and I have headphones [14:03] Haha! [14:03] that sounds like Mary [14:03] Hmm, are you listening to an old show? [14:03] Yes, it's Mary. [14:04] Mary hasn't been on the show in months [14:04] Really? [14:04] Chat hosted by irc.wikkedwire.com [14:04] Okay. I'll try your feed. [14:04] Visit the Atheist Community of Austin website: http://www.atheist-community.org [14:04] Visit the Non-Prophets website: http://www.nonprophetsradio.com [14:04] Listen LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com [14:04] Welcome! If you're having problems with freethoughtradio, you can connect directly to the LIVE show! Winamp, media player and other software can be used by "connect to URL" or "play URL" features and directing the player to: nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000 (Limited spaces available) [14:04] I heard "live 2005", was that a mis-speak, or am I listening to the wrong show? [14:04] zzz.zzzzz.............zzzzzzzzzz................zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......... [14:04] wha? [14:05] yeah, that's a different show. [14:05] This sounds like Russell and Mary talking. but isn't Russell in class? [14:05] Yup [14:05] I'm in class [14:05] Listen to http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000 [14:05] They're playing a rerun? [14:05] FTR is running an old show. [14:05] Yes [14:05] Sean hasn't logged in or connected today [14:05] Yes, I hear Russell talking, and "Kazim" says he's in class right now. ?? [14:06] Everyone will need to connect directly at the address pointed out by Indefual [14:06] It's like that episode of Bewitched [14:06] Where there's two Darrens in different places [14:06] wow [14:06] 104 shows in 2 gigs [14:06] Hey, is there anywhere I can download these older shows? [14:06] I'd love to get them. [14:06] :) [14:07] * atxcat has quit IRC (atxcat) [14:07] Haha. [14:07] I'll get to work on that :) [14:07] You can buy them on DVD by mailing mac@atheist.com [14:07] I think [14:07] * atxcat has joined #nonprophets [14:07] whoops atheist@mac.com [14:07] lol [14:08] LOL [14:08] the blow me state [14:08] lol [14:09] Hey, rudeboy, did you get my private messages (over IRC)? [14:09] yep I'm receiving it in class [14:09] but I kind of should listen to the professor instead :) [14:09] hehe [14:09] yea [14:09] I just got beat up on a quiz [14:09] uh.... no [14:09] did you email them? [14:10] thanks for the link to the current show -- I can hear it now -- I am no longer listening to the old show on freethought radio [14:10] cool [14:10] * Stoneface has joined #nonprophets [14:10] Too bad Sean's not here to fix the feed [14:10] uh oh [14:10] thunderstorm [14:10] I may leave suddenly [14:11] Update the PODCAST!!! It is still on Darwin Day! [14:11] I emailed Martin this morning [14:11] Cool [14:11] It should be up along with this one tonight [14:11] Hopefully [14:13] Hey, rudeboy, is there anyway I can send you a message? Don't type you email address in here ... Because it can be scanned by spam bots... Unless you type it in phonetically... [14:13] There are worse places that Texas. [14:14] you can PM me [14:14] how? where? [14:14] duble click on his name [14:14] click me directly in this chat -- click my name over there ----> [14:14] That didn't work before. I'll try again. [14:15] worked for me [14:15] * Stoneface has quit IRC (Stoneface) [14:15] should open a new window with only my nickname in it [14:16] We're willing to spend more money to get a "head of state" killer that on a "homeless man" killer. Ideally, they're the same crime, right? [14:16] .............. or not.... [14:16] * Indefual-II has joined #nonprophets [14:16] uh, is that guy pro-life? how does he reconcile that? [14:17] strong thunderstorm is rolling over me now, so I may suddenly leave the room [14:17] It did. But the messages aren't getting to you. :( [14:17] where is it raining? (or thundering?) [14:17] ok, let me PM you instead [14:17] k [14:17] LA, atx [14:18] * Indefual-II has quit IRC (Indefual-II) [14:18] * Stoneface has joined #nonprophets [14:18] rudeboy, LA the state or LA the city. i always get them confused, ha ha. [14:19] Well the prof is going over the quiz answers now... I sucked badly, but judging from everyone else's reaction, I'm not the only one [14:19] So hooray for the curve! [14:19] yay [14:19] What's the show topic right now? [14:19] Russia... [14:20] I can't listen because it's a very small room and hard to be discreet [14:20] Topic: surprise news item from Matt D. [14:21] Kazim: now they're talking about Falwell (convinced that Jews don't have to accept Jesus -- special route to heaven) [14:21] But he changed his mind about that I thought [14:21] Kazim: so perhaps there's hope for you, ha ha [14:22] he changes his mind a lot, doesn't he? [14:22] Cool, Pascal's Wager has nothing on me! [14:22] You don't need to accept Jesus to go to heaven? So, he's redundant. Not even necessary, really. [14:23] We should all become Jewish then? [14:24] Do you have to say you believe in God to convert (to Judaism)? Probably yes for orthodox and conservative. Reform? [14:25] Falwell favors gay rights? [14:25] Not gays... But their rights. [14:25] Apparently. [14:25] * rudeboy2 has joined #nonprophets [14:25] So that Christians can teach their own children? [14:26] they just heated a particle to 2 million degrees. I don't know about hell though. [14:27] * Stoneface has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:27] I always thought that since the brain loses 10,000 brain cells per day (which are not replaced), if you live long enough, you'll WILL become a fundamentalist Christian. To hear Falwell going the other way is bizarre. [14:33] * bnem has joined #nonprophets [14:33] This is off topic now, but Dick Cheney's daughter is a lesbian, right? Maybe she's a teacher (or wants to be), and Falwell is trying to "bring her into the club". [14:37] * Stoneface has joined #nonprophets [14:38] Interesting... I was trying to look for Jerry Falwell recanting [14:38] I found this: [14:38] http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:rCQo3gee5dEJ:www.falwell.com/%3Fa%3Dp%26content%3D1141242068+falwell+%22This+is+categorically+untrue.%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2 [14:38] I had to use Google cache because [14:38] that article (which is on Falwell's homepage) has been taken down [14:38] there is no trace of it left on his site [14:38] Matt, you might want to pass that along [14:39] Falwell says... [14:39] "While I am a strong supporter of the State of Israel and dearly love the Jewish people and believe them to be the chosen people of God, I continue to stand on the foundational biblical principle that all people — Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, Jews, Muslims, etc. — must believe in the Lord Jesus Christ in order to enter heaven." [14:39] Interesting. [14:39] I have a serious question. [14:39] I'm looking at it now. So he denies the report...but his denial is no longer present on his site? [14:39] Yes [14:39] Kazim: so it's back to hell for you then? [14:40] On the Non-Prophets website [14:40] Google claims it's on the front page, but it's gone and so is the linked article [14:40] Ok, I'll get that info out asap [14:40] Afraid so :( [14:40] Save a copy, that cache won't last forever [14:41] On the photo of the hosts, who is the cute redhead on Denis Loubet's t-Shirt? [14:41] That is weird that Falwell [14:41] It's Willow from Buffy! [14:41] They are both wearing Buffy the Vampire Slayer shirts [14:41] said something and then took it down from the web site. flip flopper? [14:41] Oh, Alyson Hannigan [14:41] Buffy roxx0rz [14:42] Yes [14:42] Stoneface: that was a very serious question. [14:42] figures [14:43] It was an important issue too. I'd been wondering for weeks... [14:44] Where in Texas is Austin? [14:45] Nearer Houston or Dallas? [14:45] Central [14:45] south of dallas, eastish of houson [14:45] houston [14:45] Umm.. a hard drive from New Orleans. [14:46] Only 11 hours [14:47] Texas... four US presidents in 50 years I guess. [14:47] and this last prez, whew! [14:48] Jr, Sr, LBJ and Ike [14:48] You guys are in Austin, Texas? Do you happen to know Dixie Normus? [14:49] I don't know her, sorry [14:49] was that a joke? [14:49] Sorry, that was bad. [14:49] groan [14:49] I thought so. [14:49] ha ha, i think i have met her after all! [14:49] I'm from Canada [14:50] Doctor Dino! [14:51] I promise to do all in my power to prevent my country from invading Canada [14:51] Theist phone calls are a hoot on the Sunday show. [14:52] The same six freakin arguments [14:52] Kazim: Jeff is now talking about Daniel Dennet's new book. [14:52] Thanks atxcat [14:53] Stoneface: yeah, the same arguments -- i could never do the show as graciously as the hosts do most of the time. [14:53] the desin thing, the chicken-egg, [14:54] pascal [14:54] and they say it like it has never been considered [14:54] Invading Canada? We kicked your sorry asses our of our country last time... We'll do it again. :) LOL! [14:54] design [14:55] never cross the opossum [14:55] War of 1812. Four invading US armies. None came back. [14:55] pull my finger [14:55] I have daily brain farts [14:55] no finger pulling necessary [14:56] Yeah, I never consider pascal, design, etc. I just rape and kill babies and murder and so for the heck of it. No god, why not? [14:56] 500 americans sunnenders to 50 French trappers [14:56] Hey, we had 3 natives, too. [14:57] Oh, good grief... we need another Col. Bob. [14:59] That would make a great stage play [14:59] * GreenXero has joined #nonprophets [14:59] A made up Ingersall-Chesterton debate. [15:00] Chesterton: Bob, you are an idiot! [15:00] Ingersoll: Not as stupid as your god. [15:00] * ouini has joined #nonprophets [15:01] * ouini has left #nonprophets [15:01] * ouini has joined #nonprophets [15:01] Something to offend everyone. [15:02] * Kazim has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] * Kazim_ has joined #nonprophets [15:02] * Kazim_ is now known as Kazim [15:02] ...and now I'm back [15:02] Stupid wireless internet [15:02] Welcome again. [15:02] haha [15:02] Landover really isn't far off. [15:04] Stoneface: I'm not offended. I'm offended that there's nothing there to offend me! :) [15:04] Barzin said that to Bunuel [15:04] So I've been away... did they ever mention Falwell's flip-flop? [15:05] they covered fallwell [15:05] Atheism called a relligion... now that is offensive [15:06] Hmm true. [15:06] I hear the TV Show on the podcasts [15:06] You mean, the Atheist Experience? [15:06] yes [15:06] ah, yes, good show. [15:07] glad you can listen [15:07] crap, my nephew is going on a "mission" and has asked me for $$. What a quandary. [15:08] tell him to go mow the lawn [15:08] Atheism is the absence of belief in gods. Health is the absense of disease. If atheism is a religion, then is health a disease? [15:08] haha. My lawn is under two feet of snow. [15:08] :) [15:08] tell him to go mow the snow [15:08] It is 88F here! [15:08] Virginity is a sexual position... [15:09] Ted Haggard, New Life Church, Colo. Springs (in Harper's Mag. a few months back.) It's not his primary church. [15:09] Yes, Russell, I cleared up the Falwell stuff [15:09] As much as it could be cleared up, that is [15:09] We're on to altruism and morality :) [15:10] ... If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. [15:10] ha ha, mow lawns. they expect them to come up with $2000, so he'll be in good shape when he goes. [15:10] I heard that transition, yes [15:11] So, if I DON'T collect stamps, then I'm a hobbyist. [15:12] Freedom Fries! [15:12] My nephew's mission is to the World Cup games in GERMANY. [15:12] Break's over... enjoy the rest of the show [15:12] The difference is the christians believe in an invisible friend. [15:12] It's a cheap trip for Brits. That's why. [15:12] Atheists doubt it [15:12] Europe? [15:12] jeeez [15:12] no shit, like europe has passed on religion [15:12] I'm hoping that my nephew gets his eyes opened on his mission. [15:13] barely 2% even give a shit [15:13] They say "invisible friend", I say "invisible fiend". [15:13] ha, invisible fiend, indeed. [15:13] more like religion passed on Europe [15:13] repeatly [15:13] repeatedly [15:14] BRB [15:15] * trent has joined #nonprophets [15:16] Canada allows diggars.. But only if they are small, don't have a sharp blade, and typically sewn in to the holder. Further, this one in question was made of wood. [15:16] Not really deadly... [15:16] On the other hand, I'm not really sure where I sit on this. [15:16] Did anyone see the documentary several months ago about youths who went on a mission to Europe? Needless to say, they made few, if any converts, and the reaction of the European ranged from annoyance to bemusement. [15:17] Where was this documentary shown? [15:17] I'll argue with anybody except realatives. [15:17] I think on PBS, but I'm not 100% certain. [15:18] I don't enjoy hurting them [15:18] hmm, wasn't Frontline. [15:18] may have been Mormon missionaries. [15:19] So, the Mormon came to pass? [15:19] sometimes I tell people I'm a Discordian, but Smackafarian sounds even better. [15:21] I think the documentary was "Get the Fire" http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/getthefire/ [15:21] I came in really late, but was there any word about where episode 5.3 went? It's not listed in the podcast feed. [15:22] Came you feel the lack of heat without Jeff Dee? [15:22] Smackafarian! Dude! [15:22] * GreenXero has quit IRC [15:23] Shoot,I was hoping to view that documentary on line, but they don't seem to want to make us pay for it. [15:23] Stoneface, are you listening to the live show? Jeff Dee is talking right now... [15:23] Remeber: This knife, the kirfin, can only be carried if it's kept unseen, blunt, and made of wood. [15:24] Ariel Sharon Deja Vu... [15:24] Listen to http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000 [15:24] But I remember that episode. It's true. [15:24] haha [15:24] Thanks Inde [15:24] Im on FTR... there is a live cast?? [15:24] there is. [15:24] Yes, but it's almost over [15:24] For some reason FTR didn't pick up the live feed :( [15:25] Freethough radio is broadcasting an older show. [15:25] FTR broadcast a show from last March last week, too. [15:25] I'm on http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/ [15:25] Well, that blew [15:25] hehe [15:25] soryr [15:25] *sorry [15:26] Now I'd eed the hear both 5.3 and 5.4 [15:26] haha. True. But it's more fun. [15:26] You enjoyed that other episode, right? [15:26] So twice the fun! [15:26] how do you spell that birth defect? [15:26] sure [15:26] fumare's deficiency? [15:26] birph dephect? [15:26] But Jeff Dee is the hammer on this particular show [15:27] less great on AE, but not bad [15:27] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, March 25th, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes. [15:27] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, March 25th, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes. (Non-Prophets)' [15:27] The shows are very different. And I enjoy the variety. [15:27] Fumarase deficiency [15:27] why aint FTR live I wonder [15:27] bye good show [15:28] well done Non-Ps [15:28] Thanks all, I have to run...busy day! [15:28] Well... THAT was one short show! lol [15:28] Bye everyone! [15:28] See you in 2 weeks [15:28] good show! [15:28] excellent show as always [15:28] * boink has quit IRC (boink) [15:28] bye [15:28] Bye! [15:28] * bnem has quit IRC (using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12) [15:28] Good show. Byw. [15:28] * ouini has quit IRC (ouini) [15:29] yep, great show.. I think. [15:29] bye [15:29] * atxcat has quit IRC (Client exited) [15:29] * Stoneface has quit IRC (Stoneface) [15:30] Bye Matt [15:30] I look forward to listening on iPod [15:31] * Kazim has quit IRC (Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]) [15:31] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Mar 11 15:31:42 2006